Alma dies without causing a major disaster; tornadoes rip Midwest

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 30. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:03 (GMT)

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Tropical Storm Alma has dissipated over the high mountains of Honduras, and thankfully did not dump enough rain to cause a major flooding disaster in Central America. At 3pm EDT yesterday, Alma became the first tropical storm since records began in 1949 to make landfall on the Pacific coast of Central America. All previous Eastern Pacific storms have hit Mexico, which is considered part of North America. Alma came ashore in Nicaragua, near the Honduras border, as a tropical storm with 65 mph winds. So far, one person has been killed in Nicaragua, due to a fallen power cable. However, Alma has not dumped enough rain to cause widespread flooding--rainfall amounts in Nicaragua the past two day have been 3-8 inches. Costa Rica has had rains of similar magnitude, which have caused isolated mudslides that have blocked roads. Additional rain from Alma's remnants should total less than two inches in Costa Rica and four inches in Nicaragua. However, Honduras, El Salvador, Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula are likely to get 4-8 inches of rain over the next two days from this system, which could cause significant flooding and mud slides.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Alma's remnants.

There is a large area of disturbed weather that has developed in the Western Caribbean between Jamaica and the Yucatan Peninsula in the past few hours, in association with a trough of low pressure extending from the center of Alma. This morning's 7:37am EDT QuikSCAT pass showed winds of up to 50 knots (58 mph) in this region, but no hint of a circulation or wind shift. It is possible that this disturbed area could start to develop on its own later today, as a westward-moving tropical wave currently near Jamaica interacts with it. This area should expand and spread into Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan by Saturday. However, I'm not expecting a major flooding disaster with heavy loss of life anywhere in Central America from Alma's remnants. The GFS model is predicting that moisture from Alma will eventually work its way north and bring heavy rains to Florida by June 7. No models are predicting a tropical storm in the Atlantic during the coming week.


Figure 2. Doppler radar winds from the Kearney, Nebraska tornadoes of May 29, 2008. Note that a twin set of vorticies appears in this image, denoting that two adjacent tornadoes may have hit.

Tornadoes rip the Midwest again Thursday; tornadoes expected today in Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri
Numerous strong tornadoes raked the Midwest last night, adding to the extensive damage already wreaked by one of the worst months of tornado damage in U.S. history. Last night's most significant destruction occurred in Jewell, Kansas, and Kearney, Nebraska. In Jewell, numerous businesses were destroyed and the town water tower toppled. In Kearney, multiple twisters hit, and a 90-car train was knocked off of its tracks. Wunderblogger Mike Theiss caught up to the Kearney tornado, and describes his experience in his blog today. All told, there were 55 tornado reports Thursday, but no deaths or injuries.

The Storm Prediction Center is calling for a "Moderate" risk of severe weather across Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri this afternoon---one level below their "High" risk level that was posted yesterday. Expect another significant tornado outbreak today. The Weather Underground Severe Weather page and Tornado page are good places to go to follow the severe weather. Also, tune in to the chase accounts and awesome storm photos from Wunderblogger Mike Theiss. Mike is in Tornado Alley this week, performing his annual chase efforts.

Jeff Masters

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1416. BahaHurican
1. kesäkuuta 2008 klo 13:54 (GMT)
New blog.
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1415. Drakoen
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:38 (GMT)
New Blog is up!
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1414. HurakanPR
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:38 (GMT)
456,i don't think Dr. Masters requires a degree in meteorology to participate in this forum. But instead to share our knowledge and experiences. Good for you and those that are studying the subject. Im sure you are a great asset for those of all with less oportunities to do so.
1413. TexasRiverRat
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:36 (GMT)
My question is: Say the Low,T.D.,or T.S. moves into mexico, Will the rains move towards texas or just keep on heading West?
1412. taco2me61
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:35 (GMT)
Good Morning Everyone,

Just checking in and see what is going own with the storm in the caribbean.... Some good reading and Great Links in here today thanks....

Back to lurking....

Have a good day and will be back later....

Taco :0)
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1411. all4hurricanes
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:33 (GMT)
I didn't form in the Caribbean everyone contradicted me and I was right it didn't form (yet) ARTHUR OMJ OMJ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1410. Drakoen
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:30 (GMT)
Photobucket
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1409. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:30 (GMT)
All and all, if this develops it won't be hard for it to reach TS status, considered the already low pressure (1005mb) and the earlier QS winds suggesting TS strength.
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1408. Cavin Rawlins
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:29 (GMT)
90L/EAST ATL/Why so many waves in may
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1407. guygee
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:28 (GMT)
1365. atmoaggie 2:54 PM GMT on May 31, 2008
I think QuikSCAT is instantaneous winds. For a TS speeds a one minute average would be used. Gusts can easily be 60% higher than the one minute average.

Hey atmoaggie!
I am thinking that since QuikSCAT is looking at reflections from capillary waves over a 12.5 km^2 cell (at best, they are really sub-pixeling that), wind gusts are getting averaged out pretty well. How that translates into an "N minute" average wind I have no clear idea. Interesting question to be answered there!
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1406. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:28 (GMT)
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?lat1=18.5N&lon1=88.7W&uom=E&dist=500&ot=A&time=3


winds are dropping...

IN 90L

Whats going on with 98A?
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1405. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:27 (GMT)
Its supposed to go to Mexico anyway.
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1404. TheWeatherMan504
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:27 (GMT)
if 90L is speeding up that means it wont probaly curve back to the NE when it gets in the BOC its going to mexico.
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1403. TheCaneWhisperer
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:26 (GMT)
I've been noticing THIS trend out of the GFS lately. Bermuda High bounces around a bit and returns to that general location @ around 1020mb.
1402. Drakoen
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:25 (GMT)
1398. IpswichWeatherCenter 3:21 PM GMT on May 31, 2008
1396. That is no way right...


Yes that is right.
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1401. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:25 (GMT)
If it keeps moving at that speed we may actually have the potential for a tropical cyclone tomorrow.
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1400. Drakoen
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:24 (GMT)
Yes 90L is speeding up the low level flow behind the system is increasing.
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1399. Tazmanian
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:23 (GMT)
WONT41 KNHC 311519
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT SAT MAY 31 2008

THE BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE PREVIOUSLY LOCATED OVER THE WESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA HAS MOVED INLAND OVER BELIZE AND THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA THIS MORNING. THIS SYSTEM IS ACCOMPANIED BY A LARGE AREA
OF SQUALLS AND GUSTY WINDS PRIMARILY OVER THE WATERS NORTH AND EAST
OF THE CIRCULATION CENTER. SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXPECTED
TODAY AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD OVER THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA. HOWEVER...THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL FOR A TROPICAL CYCLONE
TO FORM IF THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVES OVER THE BAY OF CAMPECHE
ON SUNDAY.

EVEN IF NO DEVELOPMENT OCCURS...LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINS AND FLOODS ARE
POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS OVER PORTIONS OF
HONDURAS...EL SALVADOR..GUATEMALA...BELIZE...AND SOUTHEASTERN
MEXICO. FUTURE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENTS WILL BE ISSUED ON
THIS SYSTEM AS NECESSARY. FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR
AREA...PLEASE CONSULT STATEMENTS FROM YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

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1398. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:21 (GMT)
1396. That is no way right...
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1397. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:21 (GMT)
000
WONT41 KNHC 311519
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT SAT MAY 31 2008

THE BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE PREVIOUSLY LOCATED OVER THE WESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA HAS MOVED INLAND OVER BELIZE AND THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA THIS MORNING. THIS SYSTEM IS ACCOMPANIED BY A LARGE AREA
OF SQUALLS AND GUSTY WINDS PRIMARILY OVER THE WATERS NORTH AND EAST
OF THE CIRCULATION CENTER. SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXPECTED
TODAY AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD OVER THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA. HOWEVER...THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL FOR A TROPICAL CYCLONE
TO FORM IF THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVES OVER THE BAY OF CAMPECHE
ON SUNDAY.

EVEN IF NO DEVELOPMENT OCCURS...LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINS AND FLOODS ARE
POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS OVER PORTIONS OF
HONDURAS...EL SALVADOR..GUATEMALA...BELIZE...AND SOUTHEASTERN
MEXICO. FUTURE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENTS WILL BE ISSUED ON
THIS SYSTEM AS NECESSARY. FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR
AREA...PLEASE CONSULT STATEMENTS FROM YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA/RHOME
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1396. thelmores
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:20 (GMT)


looks like NHC says 90L is a=half way across the yucatan.....
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1395. stormkat
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:16 (GMT)
if we do have an active cape verde season the east coast is definitely in the bulls eye this year...the azores high has set up shop way further north then it was last year and thids will let troughs in august turn the storms into the east coast...it will follow the weakness...so if i was on the east coast i would sure pay attention if their is limited dust storms on the african coast...we have to wait and see for middle of june and july how things will develop....stormkat
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1394. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:15 (GMT)
NHC has issued a new TC marine warning graphic. They are saying TC development now possible in the 36-48 hour time frame.

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1393. IKE
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:14 (GMT)
Check out the low spinning south of Bermuda......

Link
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1392. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:11 (GMT)
1386:

thanks....

IS there a gap where the nhc post there advisorys on there site from Issueing?
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1391. IKE
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:10 (GMT)
GZ NOGAPS takes 90L into Mexico...fires it up some after leaving the Yucatan....

Link
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1390. Cavin Rawlins
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:10 (GMT)
Perfect Circulation



Geography of the Yucatan

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1389. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:09 (GMT)





The first one is closer to 90L...

This confirms that 90L is moving
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1388. Tazmanian
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:08 (GMT)
is the big H set up to be has strong has it was in 2007???
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1387. stormkat
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:07 (GMT)
no extreme im just saying what is the set up the next 7 days and all the ingredients are coming together...the sst are rising fairly quickly...i just know the GOM and what to expect..im not saying anything about a cat 5 but yes a cat 3 is very possible when it hits the warm waters ..it can take off like a rocket...just concerned right now...stormkat
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1386. HurrikanEB
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:06 (GMT)
1332. IpswichWeatherCenter 2:38 PM GMT on May 31, 2008
What time In British Summer Time are the Atlantic advisory's for this season?

Including Intermediates...


Umm...don't quote me, but i believe that once a storm forms advisories will be issued at 5am/pm and 11am/pm with intermediates at 2am/pm and 8am/pm Eastern Daylight time...So that comes out to 10am/pm and 4am/pm for the advisories in Britian and 7am/pm and 1am/pm for the intermediates...
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1385. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:06 (GMT)
img src="http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/vis.jpg" alt="" /

I think Alma/TD01L has stopped moving...
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1384. Drakoen
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:06 (GMT)
Yep, SJ! I'm favoring EUMETSAT more lol.
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1383. IKE
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:06 (GMT)
1377. extreme236 10:03 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
stormkat it sounds like your making a bit of a doom forecast. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.


Can't say he doesn't put it on the line...I've got it circle on my calendar ST(nka stormkat)...we'll see if your right.......
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1382. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:05 (GMT)
1375

Yeh but quikscat is down so and thats the latest one....

Now i'm confused.. and it said Aiscat (or however you spell it) on the site i got it from

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1381. Drakoen
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:05 (GMT)
There's no consolidation of the convection of the coast of Africa which is probably the only thing that would give it potential to be tagged as an invest.
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1380. StormJunkie
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:05 (GMT)
Nice link Drak. The high res pages and the shift and zoom features are pretty cool.

Thank-you!
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1379. atmoaggie
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:04 (GMT)
OK, gotta go. The boss is wondering just when I'll get off the puter. Later, all.
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1378. IKE
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:04 (GMT)
Always unreliable NAM model(12Z), with moisture in the NW Caribbean in 3 1/2 days......

Link
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1377. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:03 (GMT)
stormkat it sounds like your making a bit of a doom forecast. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
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1376. TampaSpin
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:02 (GMT)
Like to chat all day but, got things to do....everyone stay CIVIL....peace out....
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1375. atmoaggie
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:02 (GMT)
1369. IpswichWeatherCenter 2:57 PM GMT on May 31, 2008
1365. Its the Aiscat (or however you spell it) one...


Says "QuikSCAT" on the bottom of the plot. Now I am confused. Is Aiscat one and the same now?
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1374. StormJunkie
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 15:00 (GMT)
1359

How you feeling ST?
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1373. IKE
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:59 (GMT)
1367. TampaSpin 9:55 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
Ike look how much the Nor. GOM warmed in 7 days.......wow and those that say the next 7 days won't mount to much is crazy.......LMAO


My forecast has highs from as high as 94-96 the next 5+ days! The GOM is heating up.

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1372. stormkat
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:59 (GMT)
yes tampa i agree and thats what is worrying me right now....with that trough expecting to dig down by thurs and strengthen the high over texas leaving us for the sharks....stormkat
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1371. Cavin Rawlins
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:59 (GMT)
1358. sporteguy03 10:50 AM AST on May 31, 2008
456,
Weren't some of the models forecasting some development off Africa?


yeah...they are showing more or less showing nothing above TD/maybe weak TS status

ECMWF
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1370. Tazmanian
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:58 (GMT)
ok 236
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1369. IpswichWeatherCenter
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:57 (GMT)
1365. Its the Aiscat (or however you spell it) one...
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1368. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:56 (GMT)
The NHC will be able to provide us with more updates on the tropics at about 2am when the first Tropical Weather Outlook is issued.
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1367. TampaSpin
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:55 (GMT)
Ike look how much the Nor. GOM warmed in 7 days.......wow and those that say the next 7 days won't mount to much is crazy.......LMAO
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1366. extreme236
31. toukokuuta 2008 klo 14:55 (GMT)
Great EUMETSAT link Drak.
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