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Bonnie weakens to a tropical depression
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 23. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 20:40 (GMT) +6
Tropical Depression Bonnie is nearing the end of its traverse of South Florida, and passage over land has significantly disrupted the small storm. Satellite images show almost no heavy thunderstorms near Bonnie's center of circulation, and the center is now exposed to view. Radar-estimated rainfall from the Key West radar shows that Bonnie dumped very little rain on South Florida--maximum rainfall amounts from the storm were about four inches over a small region southwest of Miami. Water vapor satellite loops show that Bonnie is embedded in a large area of dry air, thanks to an upper level low to the west over the Gulf of Mexico. This low has brought an increasing amount of wind shear to Bonnie today, and shear has increased from 20 knots this morning to 25 knots this afternoon. Surface observations in South Florida currently don't show any tropical storm force winds. Bonnie's top winds today were at Fowey Rocks, which had sustained winds of 46 mph, gusting to 53 mph, at 10:45 am EDT.


Figure 1. Satellite image of Bonnie from NASA's MODIS instrument, taken at 17:10 UTC July 23, 2010. Image credit: NASA/.

Track Forecast for Bonnie
The latest set of model runs from 8am EDT (12Z) are very similar to the three previous sets of runs, and this degree of consistency gives me confidence that Bonnie will stay within the cone of uncertainty depicted on the track forecast images. The projected track will take Bonnie over the oil spill region, and the storm's strong east to southeasterly winds will begin to affect the oil slick on Saturday morning. Assuming Bonnie doesn't dissipate over the next day, the storm's winds, coupled with a likely storm surge of 2 - 4 feet, will drive oil into a substantial area of the Louisiana marshlands. However, the current NHC forecast has Bonnie making landfall in Louisiana near 9pm CDT Saturday night. According to the latest tide information, this will be near the time of low tide. This will result in much less oil entering the Louisiana marshlands than occurred during Hurricane Alex in June. That storm brought a storm surge of 2 - 4 feet and sustained winds of 20 - 30 mph that lasted for several days, including several high tide cycles. The latest oil trajectory forecasts from NOAA (Figure 2) predicts potential oil impacts along a 150-mile stretch of Louisiana coast on Sunday.


Figure 2. Oil Trajectory forecast for Sunday for the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Image credit: NOAA.

Intensity Forecast for Bonnie
Bonnie has been disrupted by its passage over land, and it will take at least six hours for the storm to reorganize once it moves over the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico tonight. This process will be hindered by the large upper-level low to its west. If the low remains in its present location, relative to Bonnie, it will bring high wind shear of about 20 - 30 knots to the storm. This will allow for only slow intensification, or may even destroy Bonnie. Bonnie is unlikely to intensify to more than a 50 mph tropical storm, and I give a 30% chance it will dissipate over the Gulf of Mexico before making landfall. The GFDL model predicts Bonnie could hit the Gulf Coast as a 50 mph tropical storm, but the other major models such as the HWRF, GFS, ECMWF, and NOGAPS show a much weaker storm. I don't give Bonnie any chance of becoming a hurricane. NHC is putting the odds of Bonnie being a hurricane at 2 pm Saturday at 4% (5pm advisory.)

If you are wondering about the specific probabilities of receiving tropical storm force winds at your location, I recommend the wind probability product from NHC. The latest probabilities of various locations getting tropical storm force winds, 39 mph or higher, from the 5pm EDT advisory:

Buras, LA 30%
New Orleans 28%
Mobile, AL 37%
Pensacola, FL 30%

Resources for the BP oil disaster
Map of oil spill location from the NOAA Satellite Services Division
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Next update
I'll have an update Saturday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1351. cirrocumulus 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:17 (GMT)    
Bonnie increasing in areal coverage. Not much yet.

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1352. texascoastres 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:18 (GMT)    
atmos and angiest also figure they dont want to take any chances and be caught up like Nagel and Blanco were. extremely bad so alittle planning goes a long way. I completely agree with you both.
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1353. NOLABean 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:18 (GMT)    
Takes 3 days to get some of the spill cleanup vessels out of harms way according to USCG. Keeping this in mind and the fact that you have plenty of locals and local governments also in harms way helping with the spill, calling SOE was a MUST. I don't always agree with LA govt, but we will likely be calling SOEs early and often this year regardless of whether a storm gets torn up.
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1354. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:19 (GMT)    
Are the Hurricane Hunters still out there? havent heard about em in a while
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1355. xcool 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:19 (GMT)    
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1356. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:20 (GMT)    
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1357. Levi32 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:20 (GMT)    
Quoting cntrclckwiseSpenn:


With that map you showed..do you feel the gulf coast is more under the gun this year than in years past? I know in Tampa, the attitude is pretty ignorant here that a major hurricane will hit.


Definitely. I wouldn't be surprised to see a year like 2008 impact-wise in the gulf which had 6 storms move through the gulf, and it could even be worse than that. We've already had 2 or 3 if you count TD 2. A couple of them will likely be majors, but we can hope to be lucky.

You know....no joke it's dang hard to hit Tampa directly with a hurricane. It really is. They will get one someday...impossible to say if it will be this year, but the month that they are most likely to get at least a direct impact from a major hurricane would be October, when storms are more likely to come into Florida from the southwest.
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1358. angiest 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:20 (GMT)    
Quoting texascoastres:
atmos and angiest also figure they dont want to take any chances and be caught up like Nagel and Blanco were. extremely bad so alittle planning goes a long way. I completely agree with you both.


I have a hard time faulting people behaving responsibly. Yeah, this time it looks like it was more of an exercise. Next time it may not be.
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1359. angiest 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:21 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


Definitely. I wouldn't be surprised to see a year like 2008 impact-wise in the gulf which had 6 storms move through the gulf, and it could even be worse than that. We've already had 2 or 3 if you count TD 2. A couple of them will likely be majors, but we can hope to be lucky.

You know....no joke it's dang hard to hit Tampa directly with a hurricane. It really is. They will get one someday...impossible to say if it will be this year, but the month that they are most likely to get at least a direct impact from a major hurricane would be October, when storms are more likely to come into Florida from the southwest.


Tampa missed it in 2004 by a degree or two change in Charley's course?
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1360. pottery 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:21 (GMT)    
Quoting ElConando:


There are professional mets that come on the site from time to time. They could show up more often but it can be a zoo in here. I wonder if the same thing would happen in a blog talking about microscopes.

And what have you got against microscopes?
Its people like you that give people like me a pain, always harping on about the relative merits of bi-focal or uni-focal microbe viewing apparatus.
For your information, the Journal of American Microscope Lookers-Through have all the knowledge and experience that you dont have, and are the Authority on the matter.
I have been a lurker on this blog for 57 years and never heard you say one decent thing about microscopes.
Very sad. Poof!

How's that?
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1361. atmosweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:21 (GMT)    
Quoting wfyweather:
Are the Hurricane Hunters still out there? havent heard about em in a while


They're flying through the E side of the circulation right now. Top winds mostly unchanged.
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1362. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:22 (GMT)    
Its continuing to fire up convection... I cant expect this trend to continue but if it does.... td Bonnie will be able to sustain itself and the forecast for it to become a TS is still plausible.
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1363. centex 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:22 (GMT)    
Quoting cirrocumulus:
Bonnie increasing in areal coverage. Not much yet.

Maybe it'S a start of something.
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1364. catastropheadjuster 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:22 (GMT)    
Quoting RMM34667:
Levi.. I just LOVE your tropical tidbits, and while I watch them at work my co-workers will come look over my sholder (they think I'm studying weather stuff and such)..

But as long as there is something spining in the gulf (and I'm watching Pat's radars, and it is still spinning) I want the NHC on it.

You know the saying it easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission?? Well I think it easier to keep something going then to resurrect it from the dead. And I personally don't give a hoot about playing by the book, cause nothing in this world is black and white.. There is a hell of alot of grey area in everything.

And one more thing.. If I was Levi's mother I would be so damn proud of him!! I for one LOVE hearing these young kids and their passion for my favorite subject!


If I was Levi's mom I would be very proud of such a smart son, and proud of his disposition and manners. He has been raised right.
Sheri
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1365. cirrocumulus 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:23 (GMT)    
The crazy ULL is so busy spinning it's actually starting to pull moisture in from the south and east now. Pretty soon it will be a lot less dry.
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1366. CosmicEvents 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:23 (GMT)    
Quoting wfyweather:
Are the Hurricane Hunters still out there? havent heard about em in a while
I had one fly overhead at low altitude early this morning. First time I've seen one. Very cool. My dog and I both stared at it.
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1367. xcool 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:23 (GMT)    
hmm
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1368. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:23 (GMT)    
Quoting atmosweather:


They're flying through the E side of the circulation right now. Top winds mostly unchanged.


Thanks so much.... so still a depression.. but honestly... it wont take much for this thing to go up 5 mph
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1369. angiest 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:24 (GMT)    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
I had one fly overhead at low altitude early this morning. First time I've seen one. Very cool. My dog and I both stared at it.


I was under the impression they never did recon over land, even in the US (Florida being a special case where it can make sense to do it).
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1370. Levi32 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:24 (GMT)    
Quoting RMM34667:
Levi.. I just LOVE your tropical tidbits, and while I watch them at work my co-workers will come look over my sholder (they think I'm studying weather stuff and such)..

But as long as there is something spining in the gulf (and I'm watching Pat's radars, and it is still spinning) I want the NHC on it.

You know the saying it easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission?? Well I think it easier to keep something going then to resurrect it from the dead. And I personally don't give a hoot about playing by the book, cause nothing in this world is black and white.. There is a hell of alot of grey area in everything.

And one more thing.. If I was Levi's mother I would be so damn proud of him!! I for one LOVE hearing these young kids and their passion for my favorite subject!


Lol, well thank you :)

I do suppose it's true to be better safe than sorry, and with the oil situation I'm sure people will want to see advisories issued until they are sure it really is completely gone.
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1371. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:24 (GMT)    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
I had one fly overhead at low altitude early this morning. First time I've seen one. Very cool. My dog and I both stared at it.


Thats pretty sweet! :)
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1372. Speeky 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:25 (GMT)    
Has anyone Noticed that Bonnie seems to be taking the same track as Hurricane Andrew?

If bonnie were a strong hurricane this would be bad news for New Orleans
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1373. Levi32 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:25 (GMT)    
Quoting angiest:


Tampa missed it in 2004 by a degree or two change in Charley's course?


Yeah they did get very lucky. That's exactly the kind of storm that can do it...coming over western Cuba from the southwest. It had the angle if it hadn't have curved in. I forget the numbers but I believe Tampa is almost as void of direct hits in the 20th and 21st century as the coast of Georgia is.
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1374. texascoastres 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:26 (GMT)    
Channel 11 here in houston said it still has a chance of getting back to ts so monitor it. but the low over us was going to be pulling the gulf moisture in and provide us with more rain this weekend
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1375. CosmicEvents 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:26 (GMT)    
Quoting angiest:


I was under the impression they never did recon over land, even in the US (Florida being a special case where it can make sense to do it).
Of course. They were on their way off-shore I'm sure. I guess. They were at under 5000 ft.
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1376. HaboobsRsweet 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:26 (GMT)    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
I had one fly overhead at low altitude early this morning. First time I've seen one. Very cool. My dog and I both stared at it.


They dont fly over land...you sure it was a HH? There are many other bases with C-130s.
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1377. LightningCharmer 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:26 (GMT)    
Quoting pottery:

And what have you got against microscopes?
Its people like you that give people like me a pain, always harping on about the relative merits of bi-focal or uni-focal microbe viewing apparatus.
For your information, the Journal of American Microscope Lookers-Through have all the knowledge and experience that you dont have, and are the Authority on the matter.
I have been a lurker on this blog for 57 years and never heard you say one decent thing about microscopes.
Very sad. Poof!

How's that?
Oh...Microscopes...Wrong blog...Sorry...Was looking for information on the latest planetary convergence, and its effect on my ex's mood swings...LOL

<--Survived a direct hit by Bonnie. I have to declare, I'm a Bonnie survivor.
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1378. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:27 (GMT)    
Quoting Speeky:
Has anyone Noticed that Bonnie seems to be taking the same track as Hurricane Andrew?

If bonnie were a strong hurricane this would be bad news for New Orleans


Luckily... it isnt a strong hurr and definitely isnt on track to become one
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1379. bassis 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:28 (GMT)    
Quoting pottery:

And what have you got against microscopes?
Its people like you that give people like me a pain, always harping on about the relative merits of bi-focal or uni-focal microbe viewing apparatus.
For your information, the Journal of American Microscope Lookers-Through have all the knowledge and experience that you dont have, and are the Authority on the matter.
I have been a lurker on this blog for 57 years and never heard you say one decent thing about microscopes.
Very sad. Poof!

How's that?


microscope caster!
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1380. pottery 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:28 (GMT)    
Quoting LightningCharmer:
Oh...Microscopes...Wrong blog...Sorry...Was looking for information on the latest planetary convergence, and its effect on my ex's mood swings...LOL

<--Survived a direct hit by Bonnie. I have to declare, I'm a Bonnie survivor.

LOL
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1381. cirrocumulus 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:28 (GMT)    
centex: It's embedded much more in moisture than it was. The ULL is also pulling in lots of moisture to it's own outside areas to the south and east and thus changing it's dynamics.
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1382. cntrclckwiseSpenn 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:28 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


Definitely. I wouldn't be surprised to see a year like 2008 impact-wise in the gulf which had 6 storms move through the gulf, and it could even be worse than that. We've already had 2 or 3 if you count TD 2. A couple of them will likely be majors, but we can hope to be lucky.

You know....no joke it's dang hard to hit Tampa directly with a hurricane. It really is. They will get one someday...impossible to say if it will be this year, but the month that they are most likely to get at least a direct impact from a major hurricane would be October, when storms are more likely to come into Florida from the southwest.



Yeah, I've always wondered why it is hard to hit the central coastline of Florida (Tampa area. Panhandle and southern Fl gets hit fairly frequently?????...but the last time a major hurricane hit here was 1920 I believe.
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1383. pcbsmokey 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:28 (GMT)    
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1384. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:29 (GMT)    
Quoting LightningCharmer:
Oh...Microscopes...Wrong blog...Sorry...Was looking for information on the latest planetary convergence, and its effect on my ex's mood swings...LOL

<--Survived a direct hit by Bonnie. I have to declare, I'm a Bonnie survivor.


I am in N.O for a Bonnie Intercept.. Lets hope I can survive this beast! Lol!
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1385. cntrclckwiseSpenn 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:30 (GMT)    
Quoting cntrclckwiseSpenn:



Yeah, I've always wondered why it is hard to hit the central coastline of Florida (Tampa area. Panhandle and southern Fl gets hit fairly frequently?????...but the last time a major hurricane hit here was 1920 I believe.



I guess most systems a) don't have time to form once they hit cuba or b) get caught up in fronts that sweep/curve them south or take them north..or more west towards LA/Texas?
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1386. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:30 (GMT)    
Quoting catastropheadjuster:


If I was Levi's mom I would be very proud of such a smart son, and proud of his disposition and manners. He has been raised right.
Sheri


Yeah He does have good manners. More so than I do.. Maybe I should work on that... Lol...

Sorry everyone.... I do need to work on that.
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1387. texascoastres 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:30 (GMT)    
Good night all! got to be up a 4am, working 5am til 10pm going to need this site tomorrow night at work to stay a wake
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1388. scott39 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:30 (GMT)    
StormW said there would possibly be 2 small windows of oppurtunity for Bonnie to fire up some convection and gain a little strength before landfall. This may be the first.
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1389. xcool 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:30 (GMT)    
ha
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1390. Speeky 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:31 (GMT)    
Quoting wfyweather:


Luckily... it isnt a strong hurr and definitely isnt on track to become one


True, I am expected T.D. Bonnie to hit Louisana as a Tropical Storm with winds around 40 - 50 mph. I also expect rain amounts to be around 1 - 3 inches. Otherwise no severe threat for damage or flooding. However anything can happen in the gulf of mexico when the conditions are right.
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1391. ElConando 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:31 (GMT)    
Quoting pottery:

And what have you got against microscopes?
Its people like you that give people like me a pain, always harping on about the relative merits of bi-focal or uni-focal microbe viewing apparatus.
For your information, the Journal of American Microscope Lookers-Through have all the knowledge and experience that you dont have, and are the Authority on the matter.
I have been a lurker on this blog for 57 years and never heard you say one decent thing about microscopes.
Very sad. Poof!

How's that?


RDSL that was EPIC! :)
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1392. angiest 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:31 (GMT)    
Quoting cntrclckwiseSpenn:



Yeah, I've always wondered why it is hard to hit the central coastline of Florida (Tampa area. Panhandle and southern Fl gets hit fairly frequently?????...but the last time a major hurricane hit here was 1920 I believe.


Well, think about it. Most storms are going to be moving from the east to west, so a strike from a Gulf storm on the west coast of Florida is somewhat unlikely. Much more likely for them to get a recurving storm from the South or one that crossed Florida and then recurves and hits again. I believe such a thing happened in the 60s, Donna, perhaps?
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1393. LightningCharmer 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:31 (GMT)    
Quoting wfyweather:


I am in N.O for a Bonnie Intercept.. Lets hope I can survive this beast! Lol!
I believe, I was actually driving through the Cutler area when it made land fall. To be fair, I could have missed the e** **ll by a few minutes...LOL
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1394. Levi32 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:32 (GMT)    
Quoting cntrclckwiseSpenn:



Yeah, I've always wondered why it is hard to hit the central coastline of Florida (Tampa area. Panhandle and southern Fl gets hit fairly frequently?????...but the last time a major hurricane hit here was 1920 I believe.


It's the shape of the coastline....SW Florida is facing SW and is easily hit by storms like Charley and Wilma. After you get to Tampa the coast switches to concave inward and heads northeast for a while, and if you have a storm coming out of the SSW, it can easily miss Tampa and head into the bight of Florida. The angle has to be so perfect....that's why they're hard to hit. The shape of the coastline is some of the same reason why Jacksonville, Florida and the Georgia coast are also so hard to hit.
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1395. cirrocumulus 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:32 (GMT)    
Thanks pcbsmokey. There was a burst of convective activity when TD3/Bonnie hit the 30 degree water SST. There is more precipitable water to the west of Bonnie because so much is training in from the south.
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1396. atmosweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:32 (GMT)    
Quoting cntrclckwiseSpenn:



Yeah, I've always wondered why it is hard to hit the central coastline of Florida (Tampa area. Panhandle and southern Fl gets hit fairly frequently?????...but the last time a major hurricane hit here was 1920 I believe.


A lot of it is just pure luck...and also the shape of the peninsula...most storms that come from the S will either turn NE into extreme SW FL (Wilma/Charley) or just move N-ward into the panhandle. You need a strong fall-like trough to catch it at just the right time.
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1397. ElConando 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:34 (GMT)    
Quoting LightningCharmer:
Oh...Microscopes...Wrong blog...Sorry...Was looking for information on the latest planetary convergence, and its effect on my ex's mood swings...LOL

<--Survived a direct hit by Bonnie. I have to declare, I'm a Bonnie survivor.


I ate bon bons while watching Bonnie talking about Bonnie.
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1398. cntrclckwiseSpenn 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:34 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


Yeah they did get very lucky. That's exactly the kind of storm that can do it...coming over western Cuba from the southwest. It had the angle if it hadn't have curved in. I forget the numbers but I believe Tampa is almost as void of direct hits in the 20th and 21st century as the coast of Georgia is.


Yes,and had Charley hit where I live (Bradenton) or even an hour north in Tampa, Charley would of been a cat. 5. It went from a cat 1 to cat 4 in 6 hours.....and i think it had something to do with a loop eddy.. Fortunately, what a front, or trough curved it towards port Charlotte harbor. unfortnate for them, but thankfully it was moving fairly quickly. I remember tampa people going to orlando thinking they were safe, and getting slammed inland.
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1399. CosmicEvents 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:34 (GMT)    
Quoting HaboobsRsweet:


They dont fly over land...you sure it was a HH? There are many other bases with C-130s.
Well, I'm not a trained aircraft spotter, but I've seen and heard enough commercial, private, and military planes. This one was different, and at the time the center area was about 50 miles away.
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If they don't fly over land, then how do they get from here to there. I'm not saying a dropsonde landed on my yard.
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1401. wfyweather 24. heinäkuuta 2010 klo 04:36 (GMT)    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
Well, I'm not a trained aircraft spotter, but I've seen and heard enough commercial, private, and military planes. This one was different, and at the time the center area was about 50 miles away.
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If they don't fly over land, then how do they get from here to there. I'm not saying a dropsonde landed on my yard.


XD that would be cool if one did
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