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Matthew drenching Central America and Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 15:35 (GMT) +4
Tropical Storm Matthew continues to dump heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, and neighboring regions of Mexico today. Puerto Barrios, in northern Guatemala, has received 4.57" of rain in the past 24 hours. With Matthew expected to slow down and dissipate by Sunday, the storm's heavy rains of 6 - 15 inches can be expected to cause severe flooding and dangerous mudslides. The rains are of particular concern for Guatemala, which suffered its rainiest August in its history, followed by the landfall of Tropical Depression 11E during the first week of September, which dumped torrential rains on the country that triggered flooding and mudslides that killed at least 48 Guatemalans.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken yesterday, showing Tropical Storm Matthew approaching landfall.


Figure 2. Forecast rain amounts for the 5-day period beginning at 2am EDT today (Saturday, September 25) as predicted by this morning's 2am EDT (6Z) run of the GFDL. Very heavy rains in excess of eight inches (yellow colors) are predicted for portions of Central America along Matthew's track. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Lisa
Tropical Storm Lisa pulled a bit of a surprise last night, intensifying into a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds in the far Eastern Atlantic. Lisa's longitude of 27.9W at the time made it the 10th strongest hurricane so far east in the Atlantic. Record keeping began in 1851, but it is likely that many hurricanes stronger than Lisa were missed prior to the advent of reliable satellite coverage in 1974. Lisa is even farther east than Category 4 Hurricane Julia, which earlier this month set the record for strongest hurricane ever recorded so far east. Lisa's glory will be short-lived, though, as strong upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase tonight, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over the storm. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Forecast for the rest of the tropics
Most of the models continue to predict that by Wednesday, the remnants of Matthew, and/or a piece of a tropical disturbance over the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Guatemala, will evolve into a huge and very wet low pressure system that will start spinning over Central America and the Western Caribbean. NHC has been referring to this expected storm as a "monsoon low", and these sorts of storms are very dangerous for Central America and the Western Caribbean, even if they do not develop into a tropical storm. In October 2007, a similar monsoon low I dubbed "the sleeping giant" spent a week spinning over the region, dumping very heavy rains over all of Central America and the countries bordering the Western Caribbean. Rains from this system triggered flooding that killed 45 people in Haiti, damaged thousands of homes in Cuba, and caused havoc in Guatemala, El Salvador, Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. A similar type of storm is likely to develop on Wednesday and Thursday, and most of Central America and the nations surrounding the Western Caribbean can expect to see dangerous flooding rains develop this week in association with this giant low. Most of the models also predict that this big low will eventually develop into a tropical storm or hurricane that would be drawn northwards over Cuba late in the week, and threaten the Bahamas, Florida, or the U.S. Gulf of Mexico coast. This is an exceptionally difficult system to forecast correctly, and the models have been coming up with some pretty unusual solutions as to what might happen. We'll just have to wait and see what unfolds over the next few days.

I'll have an update Sunday by 2pm.

Jeff Masters
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101. txjac 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:54 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:


Shows a broad area of low pressure, centered just east of Belize...on Wednesday.


Thanks Ike as I get the same certificate error
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102. IKE 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:55 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:


Shows a broad area of low pressure, centered just east of Belize...on Wednesday.


Then drifts it to east of the Yucatan on day 5....120 hours....Link
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105. will40 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:56 (GMT)    
Quoting txjac:


Thanks Ike as I get the same certificate error


it is a government site everyone has to accept the certificate to see it
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106. Hurricanes101 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:56 (GMT)    
GFS develops this system on Tuesday
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107. LoneStarWeather 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:56 (GMT)    
I may be way off here (probably am) but it looks to me like Matt is pretty intent on just heading out to the Pacific. Is there anything there to stop him from continuing west? Or is the thinking that he will get into the Pac and then hook a u-turn back into the Caribbean or GOM?
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108. gordydunnot 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:57 (GMT)    
Karen firing some convection in her se quadrant today at 29n 50w as she moves to the sw. Lookout Bermuda. J/K I think.
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109. stormwatcherCI 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:58 (GMT)    
Quoting JupiterFL:


You are correct sir.
LOL. Ma'am.
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110. will40 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:59 (GMT)    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
GFS develops this system on Tuesday


yes it seperates the two lows tuesday at 60hr on the run
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111. xcool 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:59 (GMT)    
okay ooz6 gfs take to nola .12z Big Bend FL .
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112. stormwatcherCI 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 16:59 (GMT)    
Quoting ROBTX09:
lol poor ike next storm will number 14 but he only predicted 13 awww sorry shouldve picked higher than 13 :(
Doesn't really matter how many you pick. They will either form or not form and it is only an estimate. No-one KNOWS how many will form.
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113. Grecojdw 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:01 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:


Then drifts it to east of the Yucatan on day 5....120 hours....Link



Ike I have a question and no one else has answered it. Do you think the unusually strong trough pattern for this time of year will shut down the hurricane season for us in the Western Panhandle? What I don't understand is that its a La Nina year which usually supports warmer and dryer fall and Winters for the Southeast yest they are predicting this set up for our area. We typically don't start getting cool weather till Halloween so I am baffled by the pattern right now.
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114. IKE 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:01 (GMT)    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Doesn't really matter how many you pick. They will either form or not form and it is only an estimate. No-one KNOWS how many will form.


I guess he thinks I'm crying over it.

See how this blog starts losing it every day...by about dinner time?
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115. Vince2005 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:02 (GMT)    
ZCZC MIATWOEP ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT SAT SEP 25 2010

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

1. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 250 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
MANZANILLO MEXICO CONTINUES TO PRODUCE DISORGANIZED SHOWER
ACTIVITY. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY ONLY MARGINALLY
FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT...SOME ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATION OF THIS
DISTURBANCE IS STILL POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT
5 TO 10 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART
NNNN

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116. IKE 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:02 (GMT)    
Quoting Grecojdw:



Ike I have a question and no one else has answered it. Do you think the unusually strong trough pattern for this time of year will shut down the hurricane season for us in the Western Panhandle? What I don't understand is that its a La Nina year which usually supports warmer and dryer fall and Winters for the Southeast yest they are predicting this set up for our area. We typically don't start getting cool weather till Halloween so I am baffled by the pattern right now.


I don't think it's shut down completely over the next 7-14 days.
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117. cirrocumulus 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:03 (GMT)    
I think we're going to have a Tampa Bay cruiser coming in from the southwest next week. These rainfall estimates give the best hint of a track than anything!

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118. stormwatcherCI 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:03 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:


I guess he thinks I'm crying over it.

See how this blog starts losing it every day...by about dinner time?
I have seen it and it is very annoying. 1 good post and 50 posts that are irrelevant.
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119. IKE 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:03 (GMT)    
12Z CMC...Link
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123. Grecojdw 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:05 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:


I don't think it's shut down completely over the next 7-14 days.


Ok that is what I was wondering. I don't know if I believe the models too much over the strong fronts coming down. There supposed to be weak this La Nina, but I guess its a wait and see. By the way, I sooo agree with the comment about the downhill turn the blog takes around dinner time. I only can take so much of it till I get annoyed and go into lurker status.
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126. stormpetrol 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:07 (GMT)    
Has the actual LLC of Matthew broken off from the main convection over land and drifting NNW along the coast of Belize?
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133. BradentonBrew 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:10 (GMT)    
Quoting LoneStarWeather:
I may be way off here (probably am) but it looks to me like Matt is pretty intent on just heading out to the Pacific. Is there anything there to stop him from continuing west? Or is the thinking that he will get into the Pac and then hook a u-turn back into the Caribbean or GOM?


It's because you are just following the convection blob and not the actual circulation. Convection comes and goes and seperates and redevelops. Follow the circulation, not the pretty colors of the convection.
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134. 7544 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:10 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:
12Z CMC...Link


WOW
and its still sticking to a so fla landfall how strong is that ouch
Link
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135. IKE 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:10 (GMT)    
Quoting Grecojdw:



The late late shift between 2-4 AM ain't to bad also. I'm typically on that late and it would seem crazy, but other posters too.


2-4 am isn't bad either.
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137. sunlinepr 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:11 (GMT)    
New spider web in wunderground

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139. IKE 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:11 (GMT)    
Quoting seflagamma:


Ike, it is obvious you are a "southern boy" because only in the south do we call lunch "dinner" LOL

I grew up calling my mid day meal dinner.


my family had
Breakfast, Dinner, & Supper !


Florida panhandle born and bread.
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140. HarryMc 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:12 (GMT)    
GFS, NOGAPS, CMC latest runs show pretty much the same pattern near term. NOGAPS just seems to develop Matt V2.0 or Nicole a day later. Looking like the models are starting to agree on at least through Tuesday and maybe Wednesday.
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141. Grecojdw 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:13 (GMT)    
Quoting sunlinepr:
New spider web in wunderground



hahaha...that explains the problems with the models clearly.:)
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144. sunlinepr 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:13 (GMT)    
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145. txjac 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:13 (GMT)    
Post 137

Now that is spaghetti ...lots of uncertainy
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147. will40 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:14 (GMT)    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Has the actual LLC of Matthew broken off from the main convection over land and drifting NNW along the coast of Belize?


in the last few frames it looks to be the case
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149. stormwatcherCI 25. syyskuuta 2010 klo 17:15 (GMT)    
Quoting IKE:


Florida panhandle born and bread.
My uncle lives in Gulf Breeze(?) not sure if that is right. Is that near you ?
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