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Alex may head north to Texas or Louisiana
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 27. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 18:36 (GMT) +5
Tropical Depression Alex has held together fairly well during its passage over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and stands poised to re-intensify back into a tropical storm once it emerges from the coast tonight. Alex brought heavy rains to northern Honduras, Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and Belize over the weekend. It was not a good beach day in Cozumel yesterday, as 9.25" of rain fell. Cancun received 2.05" over the weekend, and Belize City received 4.57". Satellite loops show that Alex's heavy thunderstorms are mostly gone near the center, though there are some impressive bands of precipitation well away from the center. There is an upper-level high pressure system a few hundred miles west of Alex, and the clockwise flow air around this high is bringing upper-level winds out of the northwest of about 5 knots over the storm, contributing to the 5 knots of wind shear observed in this afternoon's wind shear analysis from the University of Wisconsin's CIMSS group. Sea Surface Temperatures are very warm, 29 - 30°C, and dry air is currently not a problem for Alex.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of Alex.

Forecast for Alex: which model should you trust?
While the track forecast for Alex today through Monday is fairly well-assured, the longer range forecast has become highly uncertain. An increasing number of our reliable models are now indicating Alex may take a more northerly track beginning on Tuesday, with possible landfall on the Texas coast near Galveston on Friday (according to the 8am run of the GFS model) or into western Louisiana on Wednesday (the 8am run of the Canadian model.) The key question remains how Alex will react to the trough of low pressure expected to swing down over the Eastern U.S. on Monday and Tuesday. Most of the models were predicting that the trough would not be strong enough to swing Alex to the north, and several of them continue to predict this. The 8am runs of the NOGAPS and ECMWF models, for example, take Alex into the Gulf coast of Mexico 150 miles south of Texas, on Wednesday. The GFDL and HWRF models split the difference, with the GFDL predicting a Thursday landfall in southern Texas near Brownsville, and the HWRF predicting a Thursday landfall near Corpus Christi. Morris Bender of the GFDL group has just provided me the track forecast from an improved experimental version of the GFDL that shows landfall between Corpus Christi and Galveston. So which model should you trust? Last year, the best performing models at the 3 - 4 day forecast range were the GFS and the Canadian, and these are the models that are currently calling for the more northerly track towards the upper Texas coast and Louisiana. Residents of those areas should review their hurricane preparedness plans and anticipate that Alex could make landfall as early as Wednesday in their vicinity. Residents of the Mexican coast south of Brownsville should make similar plans, as Alex could just as easily hit there.

Re-intensification of Alex is likely once the center of Alex moves offshore, though this will initially be slow due to the current disorganized state of the storm and the relatively low total ocean heat content in the 100-mile-wide stretch of water on the west side of the Yucatan Peninsula. Once Alex moves more than 100 miles from the Yucatan, total heat content of the ocean increases substantially, and Alex will have the opportunity to intensify significantly. A longer time spent over water will give Alex more of a chance to strengthen, and it is possible Alex could intensify into a major hurricane if landfall is delayed until Thursday or Friday. However, Alex's intensification may be limited the farther north it gets, as water vapor satellite images show plenty of dry air over Texas that might interfere with development. Wind shear might also be an issue for Alex if it pushes far enough north, and a slow-moving storm tends to pull up cold water from the depths, limiting intensification. In short, Alex has the potential to intensify into a major hurricane, but there are plenty of roadblocks that make this only a 10% probability in my estimation.


Figure 2. Skill of computer model forecasts for Atlantic named storms during 2009. OFCL=Official NHC forecast; GFS=Global Forecast System model; GFDL=Geophysical Fluid Dynamic Laboratory model; HWRF=Hurricane Weather Research Forecasting model; NOGAPS=Navy Operational Global Prediction System model; UKMET+United Kingdom Met Office model; ECMWF=European Center for Medium Range Weather Forecasting model; CMC=Canadian GEM model; TVCN=one of the consensus models that lends together all (or most) of the above models; BAMM=Beta and Advection Model (Medium Layer.) Image credit: National Hurricane Center 2009 verification report.

Elsewhere in the tropics
A tropical wave (Invest 94L) a few hundred miles north of the northernmost Lesser Antilles Islands has been pretty much torn apart, and is no longer a threat to develop.

Next post
Wunderground's severe weather expert Dr. Rob Carver will likely be posting an update on Alex late tonight. My next update will be Monday by 10am EDT.

Jeff Masters
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3201. HoustonTxGal 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:43 (GMT)    
Why is this so addicting?? I shold be in bed yet I am sitting here waiting for graphs and charts on a storm that may or may not come my way. Is it OCD? LOL Either way, I am a weather junkie and being WU has saved my bacon in 2 major hurricanes, I just have to be here.
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3202. truecajun 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:44 (GMT)    
i ask this every year because i always forget. does anyone remember the storm in 2001 i think that was supposed to make landfall around New Iberia, LA. it was female and was supposed to be really bad, but it ended up "disappearing" in the wee early morning hours. when i say disappearing, there was a scientific explanation. i don't remember what it was though
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3203. weatherwonderer 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:44 (GMT)    
Gosh, been gone a couple hours and it hasn't appeared to move much at all..but it sure looks like it getting stronger
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3204. Ighuc 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:45 (GMT)    
Is there any reason why Tropical Storm Darby has stalled and now is headed back towards the Mexican coastline? Have the models taken into consideration the potential for Darby to push Alex away from Mexico? It seems unlikely that two weak storms would get involved regarding Fujiwara, but it's interesting, they aren't THAT far apart...
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3205. leo305 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:45 (GMT)    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


I know a lot of focus is on Alex, but what do you think of the wave about to exit Africa?

NHC has already mentioned it in their discussion, you think it is something we may be tracking in a few days?


has a strong circulation, and it's almost july, definately should be watched
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3206. KoritheMan 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:45 (GMT)    
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3207. KoritheMan 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:46 (GMT)    
Quoting truecajun:
i ask this every year because i always forget. does anyone remember the storm in 2001 i think that was supposed to make landfall around New Iberia, LA. it was female and was supposed to be really bad, but it ended up "disappearing" in the wee early morning hours. when i say disappearing, there was a scientific explanation. i don't remember what it was though


You might be thinking of Lili, which was in 2002.
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3208. taco2me61 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:46 (GMT)    
Quoting mobilebayal:


What is Kents Law?
Ya MobileBay how are you tonight???? and yes I was wondering the samething????

Taco :o)
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3209. Hurricanes101 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:46 (GMT)    
Quoting KoritheMan:


You might be thinking of Lili, which was in 2002.


actually I think Isidore in 2002
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3210. KoritheMan 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:46 (GMT)    
Quoting Ighuc:
Is there any reason why Tropical Storm Darby has stalled and now is headed back towards the Mexican coastline? Have the models taken into consideration the potential for Darby to push Alex away from Mexico? It seems unlikely that two weak storms would get involved regarding Fujiwara, but it's interesting, they aren't THAT far apart...


Alex is pushing Darby eastward.
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3211. CCkid00 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:47 (GMT)    
Quoting Patrap:

earlier this evening, we had rain come into Baton Rouge, from just slightly southeast...moving northwest (it was more south to north). tonight, in this, it is showing the clouds going from west to east. does that mean anything?
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3212. KoritheMan 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:47 (GMT)    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


actually I think Isidore in 2002


cajun was referring to a female storm.
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3213. weatherwonderer 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:47 (GMT)    
What is the latest from the HH's? Do they confirm what the satellite appears to show? That is intensifying?
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3214. Levi32 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:47 (GMT)    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
Why is this so addicting?? I shold be in bed yet I am sitting here waiting for graphs and charts on a storm that may or may not come my way. Is it OCD? LOL Either way, I am a weather junkie and being WU has saved my bacon in 2 major hurricanes, I just have to be here.


You think that's bad....I live in the arctic and I'm hopelessly attached to this screen when there's a tropical cyclone in the Atlantic basin...lol.
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3215. Hurricanes101 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:48 (GMT)    
Quoting KoritheMan:


cajun was referring to a female storm.


ah my bad, well I dont think Lili disappeared though, made landfall as a CAT 2
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3216. HoustonTxGal 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:48 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


You think that's bad....I live in the arctic and I'm hopelessly attached to this screen when there's a tropical cyclone in the Atlantic basin...lol.


LMAO!! Ok, you win!
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3217. truecajun 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:48 (GMT)    
Quoting KoritheMan:


You might be thinking of Lili, which was in 2002.


yes. that's it, it was 2002. what happened to her. that was before i blogged. did they see her "dissipation" coming? i remember waking in the morn and everyone being so glad, yet totally perplexed.
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3218. Drakoen 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:49 (GMT)    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


I know a lot of focus is on Alex, but what do you think of the wave about to exit Africa?

NHC has already mentioned it in their discussion, you think it is something we may be tracking in a few days?


Upper level winds off the coast of Africa are not conducive for development but shear amy relax some as suggested by the GFS. Wait a few days and see.
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3219. Gorty 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:49 (GMT)    
Alex update!1 Indepth!!!

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Gorty/comment.html?entrynum=8
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3220. HoustonTxGal 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:49 (GMT)    
Isn't Dr Rob Carver making a blog update tonight sometime?
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3221. LouisianaWoman 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:50 (GMT)    
It was Lili(Lily?) in 2002
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3223. KoritheMan 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:50 (GMT)    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


ah my bad, well I dont think Lili disappeared though, made landfall as a CAT 2


I admit, I'm a little puzzled there, as well. Perhaps he/she can shed some light via elaboration?

I'm trying really hard to find a storm in 2001 that was forecast to hit New Iberia, and just fizzled... Barry would be the closest, and that didn't fizzle. He/she has to be referencing Lili.

Also, I assume by "disappear" cajun meant that a rapid weakening ensued. Which it did.
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3224. truecajun 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:50 (GMT)    
Quoting truecajun:


yes. that's it, it was 2002. what happened to her. that was before i blogged. did they see her "dissipation" coming? i remember waking in the morn and everyone being so glad, yet totally perplexed.


maybe it just weakened significantly? it was supposed ot be a cat 5 then it wimped out
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3225. Hurricanes101 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:51 (GMT)    
Quoting truecajun:


yes. that's it, it was 2002. what happened to her. that was before i blogged. did they see her "dissipation" coming? i remember waking in the morn and everyone being so glad, yet totally perplexed.


Lili didnt dissipate, she made landfall in Western LA as a CAT 1/2 storm, but she did weaken before landfall
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3226. Patrap 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:51 (GMT)    



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3227. NeverPanic 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:51 (GMT)    
Quoting leo305:


has a strong circulation, and it's almost july, definately should be watched


Has alot of dust in the way. Link it's going to be interesting to watch.
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3228. TexasGulf 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:52 (GMT)    
Quoting c150flyer:
Thx to all for your nice welcomes! Being in San Antonio, a TX storm would make chasing easier... I've chased 4 storms (Bonnie, Ivan, Jeanne, Ike) and one chased me (Wilma) made every single eye-wall ... any other chasers in here have any advise on how to "get permission" from local law enforcement to chase without them harassing you when they see you?


Not a chaser... but my suggestion is "Drive a Hearse". Have a coffin and some body bags in the back. You can stow all your camera gear and recording equipment in the coffin. The local law enforcement probably won't look in the coffin or ask too many questions. :>)
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3229. Gorty 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:52 (GMT)    
Edit: Putting a link to make it much easier to get to my indeph update.

Link
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3230. leo305 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:52 (GMT)    
does anyone have the live recon data? Were are they now
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3231. xcool 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:52 (GMT)    
cmc ooz to tx
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3232. KoritheMan 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:52 (GMT)    
Quoting truecajun:


yes. that's it, it was 2002. what happened to her. that was before i blogged. did they see her "dissipation" coming? i remember waking in the morn and everyone being so glad, yet totally perplexed.


The NHC admitted that they did not foresee the rapid weakening that took place with Lili. Likely causes though, were southwesterly shear associated with an approaching upper-level trough, dry air punching into the system because of that flow, and also cooler, possibly sub-26C SSTs, near the coast, owing to upwelling from Isidore, which hit just a week earlier.

Lili is actually very good study material. Its inner core was strengthening, despite heavy southwesterly shear and dry air hammering the outer core, slowly making their way inward.
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3233. xcool 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:53 (GMT)    
Link


new cmc
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3234. Patrap 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:53 (GMT)    
Isidore and Lili were back to Back in La 2002..a week or so apart.

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3235. truecajun 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:53 (GMT)    
i shouldn't have used disappeared. my memory thought disappeared but now that y'all have refreshed it, it weakened significantly. so did they forsee this or were they as surprised as we were in the morning
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3236. TexasHurricane 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:53 (GMT)    
Quoting xcool:
cmc ooz to tx


link please...
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3238. KATRINABILOXIGIRL 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:54 (GMT)    
Quoting Patrap:
Isidore and Lili were back to Back in La 2002..a week or so apart.

now how's thta for a poleward shift?
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3239. truecajun 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:55 (GMT)    
Quoting TexasGulf:


Not a chaser... but my suggestion is "Drive a Hearse". Have a coffin and some body bags in the back. You can stow all your camera gear and recording equipment in the coffin. The local law enforcement probably won't look in the coffin or ask too many questions. :>)


wow. very creative.
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3240. fly11269 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:55 (GMT)    
truecajun - 2001 was lily
3241. will45 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:55 (GMT)    
Quoting leo305:
does anyone have the live recon data? Were are they now

The last ob i have is 04:43:30Z 19.100N 92.333W 925.0 mb
(~ 27.32 inHg) 680 meters
(~ 2,231 feet) 999.6 mb
(~ 29.52 inHg)
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3242. CoopNTexas 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:55 (GMT)    
new canadian has south texas landfall (near brownsville)
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3243. Joanie38 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:55 (GMT)    
This is what our local met said this evening:

The forecast from late Monday into late week is very uncertain, all thanks to a cold front and Alex. A cold front moves south and into our area by Tuesday. The front will interact with added gulf moisture and energy from Alex. We're putting rain chances at 50% for mid week. However, both our weather and the track of Alex will vary greatly on how far south the cold front moves and how strong the high pressure behind the front will be. If it moves farther south, it should throw Alex west and reduce our rain chances by late week. If the front stays farther north, we may see more of an influence from Alex, including some rain bands possibly by mid to late week. This scenario would bump up our rain chances to high. Until the models give us a clearer picture, we're forecasting average temperatures and slightly increased rain chances for mid and late week.

ANY thoughts???
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3244. xcool 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:55 (GMT)    
i just posting link.
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3245. Levi32 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:56 (GMT)    
You don't see an NHC discussion like this very often.

~~~~~~~~

ZCZC MIATCDAT3 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
HURRICANE LILI DISCUSSION NUMBER 49
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT THU OCT 03 2002


A VERY INTERESTING EVENT OCCURRED WITH LILI IN THE PAST 24 HOURS.
IT INTENSIFIED RAPIDLY TO A STRONG CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE AND
WEAKENED TO A CATEGORY TWO AS FAST AS IT STRENGTHENED. THERE WILL
BE MANY EXPLANATIONS AFTER THE FACT...AND PERHAPS MANY PHD
DISSERTATIONS. I AM GLAD THERE WILL BE SOME. THE TRUTH IS THAT
NOBODY WAS ABLE TO PREDICT THESE SUDDEN CHANGES IN INTENSITY.
CURRENTLY...THERE ARE ONGOING RESEARCH PROJECTS ON INTENSITY CHANGE.
INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES WEATHER RESEARCH PROGRAM...USWRP.
HOPEFULLY THESE EFFORTS WILL HELP US PREDICT SUCH EVENTS IN THE
FUTURE.

FOR WHATEVER REASON...LILI WEAKENED...AND MADE LANDFALL ON THE
RAINEY REFUGE ON THE WEST SIDE OF VERMILLION BAY AROUND 1400 UTC
WITH 85 KNOT WINDS...A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE. INITIAL INTENSITY AT
THE ADVISORY TIME IS 80 KNOTS AND THESE WINDS ARE CONFINED TO A
SMALL AREA JUST TO NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER. THE HURRICANE IS MOVING
NORTHWARD AT 14 KNOTS AND THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE CIRCULATION IS
ALREADY INLAND. THE EYE IS ON THE COAST JUST SOUTHWEST OF NEW
IBERIA AND BOTH RADAR AND AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT THE EYEWALL IS NO
LONGER WELL DEFINED. A RAPID WEAKENING SHOULD CONTINUE TODAY. LILI
SHOULD BECOME EMBEDDED WITHIN THE FLOW OF A MID-LATITUDE TROUGH AND
BECOME EXTRATROPICAL BY 36 HOURS OR SO AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE
NORTHEAST WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED OVER THE EASTERN
UNITED STATES.

FORECASTER AVILA

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 03/1500Z 29.8N 92.2W 80 KTS...INLAND
12HR VT 04/0000Z 32.1N 92.4W 35 KTS...INLAND
24HR VT 04/1200Z 35.0N 90.5W 30 KTS...INLAND
36HR VT 05/0000Z 40.0N 85.0W 25 KTS...INLAND
48HR VT 05/1200Z...ABSORBED
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3246. rcmansour 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:56 (GMT)    
Models seem to be saying Brownsville to CC texas. Storm needs to move North if that's going to happen
3247. Orcasystems 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:56 (GMT)    
Quoting leo305:
does anyone have the live recon data? Were are they now




AOI
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3248. reid221 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:56 (GMT)    
Quoting leo305:
does anyone have the live recon data? Were are they now
Link
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3249. oceanblues32 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:56 (GMT)    
Hello all so I guess southeast florida is spared for the next couple weeks huh
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3250. Patrap 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:57 (GMT)    
Quoting fly11269:
truecajun - 2001 was lily





The L storm in 2001 was Lorenzo
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3251. truecajun 28. kesäkuuta 2010 klo 04:57 (GMT)    
thanks for the info. i'm sure i'll forget and ask again next year. LOL
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