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A Brazilian tropical disturbance to watch
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 15:15 (GMT) +1
An area of disturbed weather has formed off the coast of Brazil, near 18S 38W. This disturbance has the potential to develop into subtropical or tropical depression early next week. Satellite winds estimates from the WindSat instrument show an elongated area of converging winds, but no organized surface circulation. Satellite loops show little organization to the cloud pattern, and only limited heavy thunderstorm activity. Wind shear over the region is about 20 knots, which is rather high, and should keep any development slow. Sea surface temperatures are about 28°C, about 1°C above average, and plenty warm enough to support a tropical storm.


Figure 1. Morning visible satellite image of the Brazilian disturbance.

Several global models, such as the ECMWF, UKMET, and NOGAPS models have been developing this system in recent runs. Phase space diagrams form Florida State University confirm that this storm is expected to primarily be a warm-cored system, meaning it will probably be classifiable as a subtropical or tropical storm if it attains surface wind speeds of at least 39 mph. The system is capable of bringing heavy rains to the Brazilian coast while it is in its formative stages over the next few days, but I doubt that these rains would be heavy enough to cause flooding concerns. By Monday, the storm should be headed southwards or south-eastwards out to sea, and it appears unlikely that Brazil would see tropical storm-force winds of 39+ mph from this system. I give this storm a low (< 30% chance) of developing into a tropical or subtropical depression by Sunday.


Figure 2. The MODIS instrument on-board NASA's Aqua satellite captured this true-color image of a rare tropical cyclone in the South Atlantic ocean just off the coast of Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil's southernmost states. The National Hurricane Center in Miami estimated the storm was a full-fledged, Category I hurricane with central winds between 75 mph and 80 mph (121 kph to 129 kph), making it the first hurricane in the South Atlantic in recorded history.

Comparisons to Cyclone Catarina
Brazil has had only one landfalling tropical cyclone in its history, Cyclone Catarina of March 2004. Catarina is one of only six known tropical or subtropical cyclones to form in the South Atlantic, and the only one to reach hurricane strength. Tropical cyclones rarely form in the South Atlantic Ocean, due to strong upper-level wind shear, cool water temperatures, and the lack of an initial disturbance to get things spinning (no African waves or Intertropical Convergence Zone exist in the proper locations in the South Atlantic to help spawn tropical storms). Today's disturbance is located much closer to the Equator than where Catarina formed. Thus, it has warmer waters to work with, and potentially less wind shear.

I'll probably do a quick update this weekend.
Jeff Masters
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101. N3EG 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:19 (GMT)    
Just a note about crank flashlights...they do have batteries in them to store energy from cranking. One had a "computer backup" style nickel metal hydride battery, and another had a lithium rechargeable coin cell. When they short from being left on and run flat, you can crank all you want and nothing happens.
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102. Levi32 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:19 (GMT)    
Quoting xcool:
i hear Alaska bored


It usually is boring....at least if you've lived here a long time, especially the last few years. I don't generally pay much attention to the weather here unless something like today happens. We're used to snow here, and that's the only form of severe weather we ever get. Some of the last few summers have seen some scary stuff though. 2005 (a freaky year in every way) was the hottest summer I can remember, and we had a tornado 60 miles to the north of me. To put that in perspective, there was only 1 tornado reported in Alaska before that in recorded history, and that was in the interior where convection generally forms. We only get 1 or 2 thunderstorms per year here because we're close to the water.

In 2005 we had cloud-to-ground lighting during the night but I didn't get to see it (I still have never seen lightning in my life), and more thunderstorms than any other summer. The National Weather Service had to issue a severe thunderstorm warning for my county for the first time ever.
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103. AwakeInMaryland 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:21 (GMT)    
Quoting xcool:
i hear Alaska bored


LOL! I don't think SO, at least not today!

Your baby boy's first spring is coming, xcool!
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104. bappit 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:32 (GMT)    
You should take a trip just to see a good lightning storm. Can be amazing stuff.
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105. Levi32 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:36 (GMT)    
Quoting bappit:
You should take a trip just to see a good lightning storm. Can be amazing stuff.


I bet. The downpours must be insane too. The maximum dBZ I've seen here was like 40 (light orange on WU radar). My brother has been on one trip to Wisconsin in the summertime and said the thunderstorms are like taking a shower, like literally pouring water, when you step outside.
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106. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:36 (GMT)    
Quoting bappit:
You should take a trip just to see a good lightning storm. Can be amazing stuff.
proably scare the hell right outta him
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107. Levi32 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:38 (GMT)    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
proably scare the hell right outta him


Lol
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109. bappit 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:40 (GMT)    
LOL Wisconsin? Thunderstorm?

A Gulf coast summer thunderstorm rain is painful, like bb's.
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110. bappit 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:44 (GMT)    
I haven't been stupid enough to sit out in one for a long time though. :)
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111. Levi32 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:44 (GMT)    
Quoting bappit:
LOL Wisconsin? Thunderstorm?

A Gulf coast summer thunderstorm rain is painful, like bb's.


Lol wow...
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113. nola70119 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 22:52 (GMT)    
Anyone on the list in Haiti or the DR? I need to get updates on the progession of the rainy season in Haiti which should be beginning shortly....just got back from Haiti myself.
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114. drg0dOwnCountry 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 23:34 (GMT)    
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115. xcool 5. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 23:54 (GMT)    
oh
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116. nrtiwlnvragn 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 00:13 (GMT)    
Appears NHC has started tracking the Brazil storm as a "test", designated sl80. Appears they have designated it a TD, not sure why.


SL 80 2010030500 BEST 0 181S 253W 20 1007 TD
SL 80 2010030506 BEST 0 187S 270W 20 1007 TD
SL 80 2010030512 BEST 0 194S 284W 20 1007 TD
SL 80 2010030518 BEST 0 200S 300W 20 1009 TD
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117. plywoodstatenative 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 00:13 (GMT)    
okay so we have a supposed sub tropical system. what does bely for the atlantic season, an early ramp up or building season
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118. all4hurricanes 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 00:42 (GMT)    
According to wiki the six cyclones occurred in
1974 (Sub Tropical)
1991
2004 (2 storms Catarina and a TD)
2006
2009 (Subtropical)
Those seasons look like this





so really there is no correlation between South Atlantic and North Atlantic hurricanes
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119. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 00:46 (GMT)    
Webcam still showing no visibility whatsoever across Cook Inlet and Kachemak Bay. Heavy snow bands are rotating in once every 15 minutes or so with 5-10 minute breaks in between each band. This is calm compared to what we had last night and will probably have again tonight in another form.

The posts have no snow on top of them because the temperature has actually risen a little bit above freezing at sea level because we are now in the warmest quadrant of the storm, but tonight the temperature will crash into the teens and lake-effect could dump another foot on us overnight.

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120. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 00:53 (GMT)    
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121. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:16 (GMT)    
Link

GFS RUN
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122. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:20 (GMT)    
Link

CAN.GEM.MODEL
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123. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:36 (GMT)    
quiet in here
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124. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:44 (GMT)    
Good Evening!
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125. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:51 (GMT)    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
quiet in here


I didn't know you could do that with html lol.
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126. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:53 (GMT)    
just learning
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127. Jackone 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:55 (GMT)    
Everybody's waiting for a TD to develop in the S. Atlantic. lol
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128. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:55 (GMT)    
This is weird...I can't get the code you used to work in Chrome so I opened Firefox but I don't even see your text moving in Firefox, only Chrome shows it. This must be a new html thing or something.
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129. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:56 (GMT)    
So how goes the south american disturbance? I see some convection on Goes East, but im not sure if im looking at the right thing.
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130. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:57 (GMT)    
Why won't this work
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132. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:58 (GMT)    
Quoting MrstormX:
So how goes the south american disturbance? I see some convection on Goes East, but im not sure if im looking at the right thing.


This is the site to go to for most up-to-date imagery (every hour). The disturbance is more disorganized than yesterday and is currently just an open surface trough of low pressure with scattered moderate convection. I'm not nearly as impressed with it, but it still has time to play around, and there is still a small chance for tropical development. It's starting to look like this system can't handle 20 knots of westerly shear though.
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133. all4hurricanes 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 01:59 (GMT)    
Quoting Jackone:
Everybody's waiting for a TD to develop in the S. Atlantic. lol

Were not even sure it will develop
nice to get a taste of hurricane season again though
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134. WaterWitch11 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:01 (GMT)    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
quiet in here



how are you able to do that?
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135. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:01 (GMT)    
The low is showing up on radar spinning northward up Cook Inlet:

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136. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:02 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


This is the site to go to for most up-to-date imagery (every hour). The disturbance is more disorganized than yesterday and is currently just an open surface trough of low pressure with scattered moderate convection. I'm not nearly as impressed with it, but it still has time to play around, and there is still a small chance for tropical development. It's starting to look like this system can't handle 20 knots of westerly shear though.


Thanks for the link, I hope it does develop! It would be fun to watch a South Atlantic Cyclone.
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137. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:05 (GMT)    
Quoting WaterWitch11:



how are you able to do that?


HTML tag but I have a problem with WU, and I have no idea why. Everyone else seems to be able to use tags in here like font and marquee but I never have been able to. Whenever I enter the correct code it just shows normal text as if I had not entered any html. It drives me nuts.
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138. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:07 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


HTML tag but I have a problem with WU, and I have no idea why. Everyone else seems to be able to use tags in here like font and marquee but I never have been able to. Whenever I enter the correct code it just shows normal text as if I had not entered any html. It drives me nuts.


Do you use Firefox, IE?
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139. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:09 (GMT)    
Quoting MrstormX:
Scrolling text part goes in here

Do you use Firefox, IE?


Chrome....in Firefox I can't even see Keeper's text scrolling, but in Chrome I can. Even the font tag doesn't work for me watch:

this text should be big and red
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140. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:10 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


Chrome....in Firefox I can't even see Keeper's text scrolling, but in Chrome I can. Even the font tag doesn't work for me watch:

this text should be big and red


hmm thats odd...
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141. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:10 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


Chrome....in Firefox I can't even see Keeper's text scrolling, but in Chrome I can. Even the font tag doesn't work for me watch:

this text should be big and red


Now I'll try the same thing in Firefox and see if it works:

this text should be big and red

Edit: nope....sigh
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142. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:13 (GMT)    
JavaScript issues?
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143. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:17 (GMT)    
Quoting MrstormX:
JavaScript issues?


Don't think so. I type up basic HTML all the time in here (Chrome doesn't have the buttons for images and links on top of the comment box so I have to do the code manually). But outside of the very basic tags none of them will work....right down to the simple font tag that works everywhere and is used in here all the time by other people. It's frustrating...
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144. Ossqss 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:20 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


Now I'll try the same thing in Firefox and see if it works:

this text should be big and red

Edit: nope....sigh


Quote him and look at the format of the code in your active typing box. It's there, just be careful with the reproduction of it. Right, KOG? :)
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145. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:23 (GMT)    
Quoting Ossqss:


Quote him and look at the format of the code in your active typing box. It's there, just be careful with the reproduction of it. Right, KOG? :)


I did...it's a simple code and it doesn't work. I did the same thing when tampaspin uses the font tag and it's all correct but it doesn't work.
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146. Ossqss 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:27 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


I did...it's a simple code and it doesn't work. I did the same thing when tampaspin uses the font tag and it's all correct but it doesn't work.


The question is, what's different? You are not bound by your browser. It's in the format. Good luck ! Gotta go >>> L8R
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147. StormChaser81 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:29 (GMT)    
Alaska, Snow Anyone


I can see the eye, lol
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148. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:37 (GMT)    
Quoting StormChaser81:
Alaska, Snow Anyone


I can see the eye, lol


LOL...yeah well the low center isn't quite where the eye is :P

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149. MrstormX 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:37 (GMT)    




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150. Levi32 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:40 (GMT)    
HPC got the low's position a little off. They based it off of satellite imagery instead of radar.

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151. StormChaser81 6. maaliskuuta 2010 klo 02:43 (GMT)    
Quoting Levi32:


LOL...yeah well the low center isn't quite where the eye is :P

Quoting Levi32:


LOL...yeah well the low center isn't quite where the eye is :P



Yeah you can see it very visible just northeast of Homer, Alaska on the radar.

The back side seems to have less moisture, but probably more windy, with the straight line winds coming off the band going over homer.
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