Tornado rips Shreveport; Typhoon Mirinae deluging the Philippines

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 30. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:01 (GMT)

Share this Blog
1
+

Between one and five tornadoes touched down in northwest Louisiana and southwest Arkansas on Thursday. The most damaging tornado hit Shreveport, Louisiana at 5:15 pm EDT, ripping the steeple off of a church and hurling it onto a car. No fatalities were blamed on the tornadoes, though one man was killed when he drove his car into a fallen tree. The cold front responsible for spawning the severe weather will be over Alabama today, where the Storm Prediction Center is forecasting a slight chance of severe thunderstorms. Rainfall amounts from the storm exceeded six inches in many regions (Figure 1), and the cold front draped across the center of the country is responsible for flood warnings for a wide swath, from Texas to Illinois. See our severe weather map or consult our wundermap with the USGS River layer turned on to see where flooding is occurring.


Figure 1. Estimated rainfall from the line of storms that passed through northern Louisiana yesterday and today.

Colorado digs out
The Denver, Colorado area continues to dig out from the biggest October snowstorm to affect the region since 1997. The town of Pinecliff in the mountains just northwest of Denver recorded 46 inches of snow from the storm.

Typhoon Mirinae deluges the Philippines
Category 2 Typhoon Mirinae's deluge has begun over the Philippines' Luzon Islands, as the storm's eye nears the east coast of the island. Mirinae--who's name is taken from the Korean word for "Milky Way"--did not intensify, and now appears to be suffering from land interaction, since the southwest portion of the typhoon's circulation is now over land. The latest infrared satellite loops show no eye, a decrease in the storm's organization, and warming of the cloud tops of Mirinae's eyewall clouds--all indicative of weakening. Satellite estimates of Mirinae's intensity declined a bit over the past twelve hours, and it appears likely that Mirinae will be a Category 1 typhoon with 80 - 90 mph winds at landfall near 18 UTC (2 pm EDT) today. Mirinae's primary threat will be heavy rain, and microwave imagery shows that the typhoon's heaviest rains of one inch per hour lie in the southern eyewall. With the eye expected to track over or slightly south of the capital of Manila, this means that Mirinae's heaviest rains of 8 - 12 inches will fall just south of Manila, with 4 - 8 inches expected over the city (Figure 3). The ground is still flooded and the dams brimming full from the previous two typhoons to hit the Philippines over the past five weeks, so Mirinae will probably cause much heavier damage than is usual for a typhoon of its intensity. Flood water from the September 26 deluge of Typhoon Ketsana is still standing in the streets of some suburban areas of Manila, where more than one million people are living in flooded districts. The combined death tolls from Typhoon Ketsana and Typhoon Parma in the Philippines this year now exceed 1,000, and Mirinae will undoubtedly add to that figure. However, Manila is more prepared for this storm than it was for Typhoon Ketsana, and I am hopeful that the death toll from Mirinae will be far less. Mirinae is expected to emerge over the South China Sea tomorrow and strike south-central Vietnam on Monday. With wind shear expected to steadily increase over the storm, and the typhoon disrupted from its passage over Luzon, it is unlikely that Mirinae would hit Vietnam as anything stronger than a tropical storm with 55 mph winds.

Extreme storm photographers Jim Edds and James Reynolds are in Manila for the arrival of Mirinae, and have posted a video of the surf along the shore from the typhoon at the extremestorms.com website.


Figure 2. MODIS visible satellite image of Typhoon Mirinae at 05 UTC Friday, October 20. A the time, Mirinae was a Category 2 typhoon with 105 mph winds. Image credit: NASA MODIS Rapid Response System.


Figure 3. Rainfall forecast for Typhoon Mirinae for the 24-hour period ending at 06 UTC Saturday October 30, 2009. Mirinae is expected to dump 8 - 12 inches of rain along a narrow swath near its core, passing just south of the capital of Manila. Image credit: NOAA/NESDIS.

Quiet in the Atlantic
There are no threat areas in the Atlantic to discuss, and the the Caribbean is dominated by dry air and high wind shear. A non-tropical low pressure system in the middle Atlantic Ocean, near 32N 50W, is cutting off from the jet stream and will slowly wander westward toward Bermuda over the next 3 - 4 days. It is possibly that the low will spend enough time over water to acquire some tropical characteristics and become Subtropical Storm Ida. The storm could bring high winds to Bermuda on Monday. Elsewhere in the Atlantic, none of the computer models is calling for tropical storm development over the next seven days. Most of the models are calling for a tropical storm to form off the Pacific coast of Mexico near the Guatemala border by the middle of next week.

Jeff Masters

no grilling tonight (denvereye)
I did the last mowing less than a week ago ....
no grilling tonight

Reader Comments

Comments will take a few seconds to appear.

Post Your Comments

Please sign in to post comments.

or Join

Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.

Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted

Viewing: 312 - 262

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7Blog Index

312. atmoaggie
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:22 (GMT)
NEW BLOG
Member Since: 16.08.2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
311. AussieStorm
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:21 (GMT)
Member Since: 30.09.2007 Posts: 9 Comments: 15750
310. AwakeInMaryland
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:20 (GMT)
Quoting atmoaggie:

Yep.
Agree.
Concur.
Likewise.
+1
and again.
Hey, are you atmoaggie in disguise? (j/k)

Atmo-the-Awful-Aggie? (AAA)
Sorry, Awful Alliteration (yup, groaner...gimme a break, it's Halloween...I'm the class dunce here.)
Member Since: 19.08.2008 Posts: 32 Comments: 1918
309. atmoaggie
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:19 (GMT)
"For example. Water expands as its temperature increases. Try calculating how much sea level will rise if the oceans increase in temperature by only 2 degrees C."

Short answer:
The Gulf of Mexico with a winter surface temp in the 50s (F) and a summer temp in the upper 80s (F) only rises 0.5 feet between winter and summer.

2 degrees (C), well that would have to be about 0.05 feet.

Maybe we should do this in millimeters so it looks scary...
Member Since: 16.08.2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
308. HIEXPRESS
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:17 (GMT)
307.
"For example. Water expands as its temperature increases. Try calculating how much sea level will rise if the oceans increase in temperature by only 2 degrees C."

Better check again. Water gets denser as it warms from 0C to 4C.
Member Since: 13.10.2005 Posts: 4 Comments: 2155
307. calusakat
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:08 (GMT)
Quoting Patrap:
The warming is not conjecture its a proven fact.What all the fuss about is the causation of the warming.
But those who deny already know that the Co2,Methane and Co3 Fairies come out every night and wave their wands and "Poof", all that Nasty Stuff goes away.

LOL

Ever been to Hong Kong on a clear day?
Ever seen the Pollutants in Beijing?

Were doing a Global experiment with fossil fuel Burning and guess who the Guinea Pigs are?

The warming will continue as the Atmosphere becomes more Polluted thru time.

China isnt going to cease its Growth,India neither.
They will have their run with Fossil Fuels on a scale that will/has dwarfed the west.

Changes already occurring will only increase as the Levels rise.



According to our own government, the global population in 2070 will be over 16 billion people. Man-made global change is inevitable.

***
Note: This post is related to the population effects on the weather...the food necessary to feed all of the population and the residual debris left by those folks. You know...all those various gases.
***

Keep in mind that the planet has all sorts of buffers built into the system.

For example. Water expands as its temperature increases. Try calculating how much sea level will rise if the oceans increase in temperature by only 2 degrees C.

Interesting problem...since heat rises, the temperature increase will tend to stay at the top and not move toward the bottom and diffuse into the surround environment. Did you know that the temperature in the deeper parts of the Atlantic Ocean are in the 30's F?

Anyway, figure out what the average depth of the oceans are and then calculate what the surface would have to be so that the average temperature would increase 2 degrees C. And then calculate how much of an increase in the levels would result from such an increase.

And that is only one of the myriad of buffered systems to be found through out this planet of ours.

Attempting to control this environment on earth is a sad example on how little we actual understand it. AGW folks are simply demonstrating their ignorance regarding this planet.

As inhabitants of this planet, we must adapt to the changing environment, not attempt to alter it. We have no idea what will happen as we attempt to alter the climate in any way. Looking forward into the future to attempt to anticipate the changes and devise methods of adaptation is a much more responsible way to go.

Unless of course you want to tell every single inhabitant that they can only have so many children or that they can't have any at all, except when the government tells you that it is okay.

Gattica anyone?

AGW...Cap and Trade are simply ruses fabricated by the wealthy to extract vast sums of money for themselves and their cohorts. Doubt me? Research the word 'propaganda' and see for yourself how many of the techniques are used everyday to silence the folks who disagree. Why else would they resort to such filth unless they had an ulterior motive such as lining their pockets with our money?
Member Since: 10.10.2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 716
306. AwakeInMaryland
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 14:07 (GMT)
Quoting MayFL:


I made the correction but it was not a personal attack.

Thank you for being willing to listen... Take off all the bold and may we consider it a diplomatic compromise?? Appreciate it.
Member Since: 19.08.2008 Posts: 32 Comments: 1918
305. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:58 (GMT)
Southern Hemipshere is trying kick off with 96P and 99S (below), the island to the SW is Madagascar.

Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
303. AussieStorm
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:56 (GMT)
Typhoon smashes storm-weary Philippines

* From: AFP
* October 31, 2009 11:34PM


TYPHOON Mirinae has smashed through the Philippines, killing 11 people and worsening floods in areas that were struggling to recover from recent deadly storms, officials say.

The typhoon, packing winds of up to 185km/h, is the third major storm to hit the Philippines' main island of Luzon in just five weeks, with the previous two claiming more than 1100 lives.

In Manila, areas that have been flooded since Tropical Storm Ketsana struck in late September were hit with more heavy rain today, while residents in other districts were forced onto their roofs to escape rising waters.

"We need help because the waters have risen. We need rubber boats and choppers," Ariel Magcales, the mayor of Santa Cruz town on Manila's outskirts, said.

"Some people are on the roofs of their houses."

Military and police rescue boats worked to save people who were trapped by a flash flood, officials said.
One man was found dead and his one-year-old baby was missing after they were washed away while trying to cross an overflowing creek in a rural area on the outskirts of Manila, the military said.

Three people were reported dead and five others were missing in Laguna province just south of Manila, the local disaster monitoring office said.

Seven people died in the Bicol region, south of Manila, mostly from flash floods, local disaster monitoring officials said.

Another man was missing from a Manila slum district after his hut was washed away, while two others were missing in Batangas province south of Manila after their car fell into a river when a bridge collapsed, civil defence spokesman Ernesto Torres said.

Tropical Storm Ketsana, which struck on September 26, caused massive flooding in Manila. Outlying districts that are home to more than a million people were expected to remain flooded into the New Year even before Mirinae hit.

Navy and coast guard boats had been sent to Santa Cruz to rescue people, according to Torres, who said Defence Secretary Gilberto Teodoro was heading to the area to check on the extent of flooding and damage.

"The waters were really high. It was like a flash flood. It was waist deep in our area but in other areas it went as high as the rooftops," traffic director Marlon Albay said.

The highway to the town was covered by knee-high waters, preventing smaller vehicles from reaching it and prompting the military to send huge trucks to help residents, according to an AFP photographer.

Hundreds of residents in these areas were seen wading through the dirty waters.

Other towns in Laguna reported flooding, along with areas in the Bicol region further to the south, Torres said.

However, more than 115,000 people had been evacuated from vulnerable regions before the typhoon hit, which likely prevented more deaths, Mr Torres said.

The typhoon caused power outages and knocked down trees across many areas of Manila, a sprawling city of 12 million people.

It also forced flights to be suspended from Manila's international airport.

Ferries, a popular form of transport in the South-East Asian archipelago, were also cancelled, ruining travel plans for many who were hoping to head to their hometowns for the All Saints' Day long-weekend public holiday.

As of 5pm (8pm AEDT), the typhoon had left Luzon and was charted 670km west of Manila, moving away from the country at 20km/h, the government weather station said.

"The worst is over for Metro Manila," weather forecaster Nathaniel Cruz said.
Member Since: 30.09.2007 Posts: 9 Comments: 15750
302. AwakeInMaryland
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:53 (GMT)
To Erik-the-Geologist, greetings!

I very much like your practical and do-able ideas, like planting trees and helping less developed countries with their problems re deforestation. As a layperson what I need help understanding is the either-or approach...might we not also at least lessen the burning of fossil fuels -- e.g., continue developing electric cars? I read an article yesterday that Nissan is starting a tour of their new electric "Leaf" car, due out next year.
Or am I being naive, in your opinion?
Member Since: 19.08.2008 Posts: 32 Comments: 1918
301. Ameister12
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:53 (GMT)
The CMC models are developing something in the Caribbean near 10N, 80W.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.cgi?time=2009103100&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
Member Since: 9.08.2009 Posts: 10 Comments: 4504
300. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:51 (GMT)
Today's Tropical Update
Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
299. atmoaggie
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:51 (GMT)
Quoting eriktheawful:
As a geologist I find the whole debate and this so called "consensus" a little puzzling. The entirety of recorded history is a mere sliver of this earth's history. We have such an investment of emotion in our tiny blip on this earth and we sure want to feel like we are having a huge impact. The earth has spent lots of time glaciated and lots of time ice free. The Co2 levels have varied greatly too with volcanism and plant growth. While we MAY be speeding up the arrival of an ice free interglacial period, we should not be fooled into thinking that it wouldn't have arrived anyway and we shouldn't be so vain as to think that we will cause an end to glaciation totally by burning fossil fuels, the next ice age will arrive with or without us, and yes we will all be dust by then. My problem with global warming is it is being billed as fact and is sucking attention and dollars away from environmental issues we have far more control over. If we rush through setting up legislation to control CO2 the politicians will defiantly get it wrong. I am all for cleaner air and feel like progress is being made on this issue. I just feel like our passion could be better used controlling deforestation, managing our fisheries and water resources, planting more trees, and creating more wilderness. We have to help the third world to not deforest the jungles and we should plant trees everywhere we can fit them in our country (we have a very unhealthy obsession with lawns and manicured gardens). Remember what C02 is... plant food.

Yep.
Agree.
Concur.
Likewise.
+1
and again.
Hey, are you atmoaggie in disguise? (j/k)
Member Since: 16.08.2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
297. AwakeInMaryland
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:46 (GMT)
289. Respectfully, might I ask you to modify your statement, remove the personal stuff, your request and use WU mail? I know, of course, that you are absolutely allowed an opinion, but that can be construed as a personal attack and could be a bannable offense. If you would be so kind to remove it, I won't flag it...okay? Otherwise, I'll have to flag.

Everybody has their "stuff"...
Member Since: 19.08.2008 Posts: 32 Comments: 1918
296. homelesswanderer
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:46 (GMT)
Good Morning! And this is just wrong!!!

Beaumont, Texas (Airport)
Updated: 52 min 13 sec ago
Clear
47 °F
Clear
Windchill: 46 °F
Humidity: 100%
Dew Point: 47 °F

Lol. "Windchill" is not a part of our local vocabulary.
Member Since: 15.08.2008 Posts: 10 Comments: 3665
294. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:43 (GMT)
Quoting IKE:


I'll post on here when I want to.

You need to grow up some. You're immature.


Notice I said that I understand where you were coming from but you choose to go personal with me.

That's fine.
Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
293. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:41 (GMT)
Quoting Weather456:


I have been noticing something all season long, that you keep saying "its just weather" and "personal problems are more important" and "more important things in life than weather".

While I do understand what you are saying, For me, weather is life and I live for it. For many on here, they make a living off of forecasting so while you may not be a met or weather enthusiast you have to understanding that this important to people like me and people will question or debate on such topic.

Also I do not know if you actually have kidney problems but if you do, sorry to hear that but stop using these personal problems on the blog, we are not here for that, we are here to debate about climate, weather and any other related topics so if you think this is "less important than life" then you can always spend less time here.


I'll post on here when I want to.

You need to grow up some. You're immature.
Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
292. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:41 (GMT)
Quoting IKE:


Just remember....you started it. I'll post on here whenever I please.

You are one cruel person.

Fire away....cuz you've been added.

*POOF*


You place him ignore for stating the facts. This is a weather blog.
Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
290. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:39 (GMT)
Quoting MayFL:


This is a weather blog, if you have personal problems more important than weather then leave.


Just remember....you started it. I'll post on here whenever I please.

You are one cruel person.

Fire away....cuz you've been added.

*POOF*
Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
288. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:36 (GMT)
Quoting IKE:


Yes, I'm wrong quite a bit 456. But I don't send personal messages to others telling them their not providing evidence as to why a system would or wouldn't develop like it's the most important thing in someone's life.

I have more important things to worry about like 20% kidney function and a 3.45 creatinine level.


I have been noticing something all season long, that you keep saying "its just weather" and "personal problems are more important" and "more important things in life than weather".

While I do understand what you are saying, For me, weather is life and I live for it. For many on here, they make a living off of forecasting so while you may not be a met or weather enthusiast you have to understanding that this important to people like me and people will question or debate on such topic.

Also I do not know if you actually have kidney problems but if you do, sorry to hear that but stop using these personal problems on the blog, we are not here for that, we are here to debate about climate, weather and any other related topics so if you think this is "less important than life" then you can always spend less time here.
Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
287. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:35 (GMT)
Quoting MayFL:


I did not do anything wrong. I simply asked you if were not handling the situation down in the Caribbean wrong. I respected your oponion and never said anything out of the way. I also chose to sent you a PM instead of making a comment on the blog since it is more private but yet you bring it here.

The comment I made also is because you seem a little "whinish". We are quite aware of the season inactivity but as Weather456 has been saying, is how much you learn that counts not the 8.


The situation wrong? It was an invest. You send someone a PM over an invest stating that I didn't provide facts.

How many systems had developed or gone through the western Caribbean all season? Zero in 5 months....plus dry-air to it's north, plus shear, plus no model support, plus El Nino.

Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
286. lawntonlookers
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:30 (GMT)
Just started reading the blog to get caught up. Here is a link to the phiilippines news article.

Link
Member Since: 22.03.2006 Posts: 9 Comments: 1570
285. wunderkidcayman
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:29 (GMT)

look at W. carib.and near the possible pre-sub-tropical storm
Member Since: 13.06.2009 Posts: 2 Comments: 9595
284. eriktheawful
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:28 (GMT)
As a geologist I find the whole debate and this so called "consensus" a little puzzling. The entirety of recorded history is a mere sliver of this earth's history. We have such an investment of emotion in our tiny blip on this earth and we sure want to feel like we are having a huge impact. The earth has spent lots of time glaciated and lots of time ice free. The Co2 levels have varied greatly too with volcanism and plant growth. While we MAY be speeding up the arrival of an ice free interglacial period, we should not be fooled into thinking that it wouldn't have arrived anyway and we shouldn't be so vain as to think that we will cause an end to glaciation totally by burning fossil fuels, the next ice age will arrive with or without us, and yes we will all be dust by then. My problem with global warming is it is being billed as fact and is sucking attention and dollars away from environmental issues we have far more control over. If we rush through setting up legislation to control CO2 the politicians will defiantly get it wrong. I am all for cleaner air and feel like progress is being made on this issue. I just feel like our passion could be better used controlling deforestation, managing our fisheries and water resources, planting more trees, and creating more wilderness. We have to help the third world to not deforest the jungles and we should plant trees everywhere we can fit them in our country (we have a very unhealthy obsession with lawns and manicured gardens). Remember what C02 is... plant food.
283. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:24 (GMT)
Quoting Ameister12:

Isn't that the non-tropical low that the models are developing into a STS?


Yea, read my blog.
Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
281. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:23 (GMT)
Quoting Weather456:


I also thought 94L would develop, along with many others like Dr. Masters and we did provide our arguments but we all wrong sometimes on some systems but laughing after people after they are wrong is not right since people could of laugh after the times you have been wrong this year - and thats alot of laughter.


Yes, I'm wrong quite a bit 456. But I don't send personal messages to others telling them their not providing evidence as to why a system would or wouldn't develop like it's the most important thing in someone's life.

I have more important things to worry about like 20% kidney function and a 3.45 creatinine level.
Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
280. Ameister12
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:19 (GMT)
Quoting P451:


Potentially STS Ida in the works?


Isn't that the non-tropical low that the models are developing into a STS?
Member Since: 9.08.2009 Posts: 10 Comments: 4504
279. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:18 (GMT)
Quoting IKE:


How did 94L work out for you MayFL? You know, the invest you sent me a PM over saying I didn't provide reasons as to why it wouldn't develop?

Boy, it sure spun up into a significant system didn't it? LMAO.


I also thought 94L would develop, along with many others like Dr. Masters and we did provide our arguments (which were alot more sensible, reasonable and factual than the opposing side) but we all are wrong sometimes on some systems but laughing after people after they are wrong is not right since people could of laugh after the times you have been wrong this year - and thats alot of laughter.
Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
278. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:14 (GMT)
Quoting MayFL:


Would you like some cheese with your wine?


How did 94L work out for you MayFL? You know, the invest you sent me a PM over saying I didn't provide reasons as to why it wouldn't develop?

Boy, it sure spun up into a significant system didn't it? LMAO.
Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
277. atmoaggie
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:08 (GMT)
With all of the Arctic heat being the harbinger of things to come for the planet, to what would you attribute the lack of a warming at surface stations on Baffin Island? (Really looking to discuss how that could be.)

For example (from NASA GISS/Jim Hansen):


Granted there are large issues with surface stations, but they are usually to the positive rather than negative (unless, I suppose they mount it on a 2000 foot pole...)
;-)

And this data source includes some "adjustments", but not sure about those for this particular station. They do not adjust all stations.

Oh, and for those of you following along at home, Baffin Island is here, in red.
Member Since: 16.08.2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
275. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 13:05 (GMT)
Atlantic hurricane season had 8 named storms(excluding the 2 TD's), in 2009, that added up to a total of 28 days they existed.

Of the 6 tropical storms, 2 lasted 3 days, 2 lasted 2 days and 2 lasted 1 day.

Of the 2 hurricanes, one lasted 9 days and the other lasted 5 days.

Entire season of named systems took place between August 15th and October 8th or a total of 55 days or just less than 8 weeks.
Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
274. atmoaggie
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 12:58 (GMT)
Quoting Skyepony:


Glad to entertain a litte..

Atmoaggie~ Tough to deny the veracity of any of those statements...

Not really. I don't see any truths, as in information there. It's nothing more than the insertion of doubt where ever possible. None of those are a published scientific reason that it hasn't gotten hotter or people don't have a hand.


Did you look at the link, Skye? Those are from the European climate scientists that are staunch proponents of AGW and proponents of doing something...they also know that some of the absurd statements ruin the credibility of everyone when some of the general public starts paying attention.

Professor Sir David King, director of the Smith School for Enterprise and the Environment at the University of Oxford
Vicky Pope, head of climate change advice at the Met Office
Myles Allen, head of the Climate Dynamics Group at the University of Oxford
Chris Huntingford, of the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology

Statements like this aren't true?
They fear, however, that the contribution of natural climate variations towards events such as storms, melting ice and heatwaves is too often overlooked, and that possible scenarios about future warming are misleadingly presented as fact.

You think the sky-is-falling, midwest-will-be-a-desert, it-will never-snow-again, the Arctic-will-be-completely-ice-free stuff is real? I know you well enough to know that you know those are just the fear-colored glasses talking.

Quoting Skyepony:
Even your station. It's one station, not a satellite or ships sailing through what has been ice for written history & then some. Warmth melts ice.

It happened briefly last winter too when the earth burped that warm air from the Atlantic that split the polar vortex.

But if the ice is melting earlier, the waters are warming to "unprecedented levels" it is impossible that a surface station recording temps in the midst of that for the last 60 years would show no warming at all (maybe why you didn't want to talk about how that could be).

And the N. Hemisphere polar vortex splits every year at some point...at odd times in the middle of winter.
Member Since: 16.08.2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461
273. BahaHurican
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 12:49 (GMT)
Morning all. We had overnight lows in the mid-70s last night, which was really great after the last months constant low 80s at night. Sure hope this trend continues.

In the tropical ATL, I'd be pretty surprised at this point to see anything else form this season. IMO this last week was the last chance for conditions to be sufficiently favorable for tropical formation. I wouldn't rule out something subtropical, but with the SSTs dropping and shear on the increase, along with the normal frontal passages, it doesn't seem highly likely even that will happen.
Member Since: 25.10.2005 Posts: 19 Comments: 20742
272. Cavin Rawlins
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 12:46 (GMT)
Good Morning

Tropical Update

Member Since: 24.07.2005 Posts: 407 Comments: 19076
267. AussieStorm
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 11:56 (GMT)
Quoting IKE:
My temp dropped from 76.5 to it's current reading of 63.3 in about 15 minutes.

Don't forget, daylight savings time ends Sunday morning at 2 am.

so u get an hour extra, damn, now the Barometer bob show will start at 12pm
Member Since: 30.09.2007 Posts: 9 Comments: 15750
266. Orcasystems
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 11:55 (GMT)
I think this vorticity is the one 456 warned about.

Member Since: 1.10.2007 Posts: 81 Comments: 26493
265. Orcasystems
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 11:54 (GMT)


Seismic Monitor

AOI

AOI

Humor in Comments

BUSTED FORECAST, to be used in the event you make a minor discrepancy in your forecast.
Member Since: 1.10.2007 Posts: 81 Comments: 26493
264. IKE
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 11:52 (GMT)
My temp dropped from 76.5 to it's current reading of 63.3 in about 15 minutes.

Don't forget, daylight savings time ends Sunday morning at 2 am.
Member Since: 9.06.2005 Posts: 23 Comments: 37858
263. Chicklit
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 11:51 (GMT)
shear, shear everywhere



Link BOO!
Member Since: 11.07.2006 Posts: 14 Comments: 11047
262. Bordonaro
31. lokakuuta 2009 klo 11:49 (GMT)
Good Morning everyone! In Arlington, TX visiting family for a week or so. Love "Wi-Fi", from our local park, not as fast as my home service, but hey, it's 100% free. Drove through TN during the rain event. Strong winds, plenty of moderate to heavy rain, thankfully no severe weather along the way.

Wow, the Philippines got "socked again". Thankfully it came and left quickly. That Lil' area in the SW Caribbean looks interesting. And the good ol' USA gets a well deserved break from severe weather, for the most part.

To all my fellow bloggers and my friends, be blessed, "Trick or Treat"...and peace :0)!
Member Since: 25.08.2009 Posts: 20 Comments: 6785

Viewing: 312 - 262

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7Blog Index

Top of Page

About

Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Local Weather

Partly Cloudy
43 °F
Puolipilvistä