Year's first deadly tornado kills eight in Oklahoma

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 11. helmikuuta 2009 klo 14:29 (GMT)

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The first killer tornado of 2009 swept through Lone Grove, Oklahoma yesterday, killing eight people and seriously injuring 14 more. Lone Grove is a town of 4,600 about 100 miles south of Oklahoma City. The large, 1/2 mile wide twister dropped down from an isolated supercell thunderstorm that formed in advance of a strong cold front that swept through the Great Plains yesterday afternoon. Three other tornadoes were also reported yesterday, two in Oklahoma and one in Texas. It was the first significant severe weather outbreak of the year in the U.S., and it spawned the first tornadoes of the year in Texas and Oklahoma. This year is a far cry from 2008, which had one of the most severe and deadly early tornado seasons on record, and ended up as the second busiest tornado year since record keeping began in 1950. In January of 2008, 84 tornadoes were observed, compared to the 10 (preliminary) observed in 2009. The slower start to tornado season this year reflects the very dry January we had. January 2009 ranked as the 5th driest and 59 warmest in the 114-year record, according to the National Climatic Data Center. It was the record driest January in portions of Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Missouri, and upstate New York.

The storm that spawned yesterday's tornadoes will drag a cold front across much of the Ohio and Tennessee Valleys today. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center is giving a Slight Risk of severe weather over these regions today. The main threat will be severe thunderstorms with high winds and hail, rather than tornadoes.


Figure 1. Severe weather reports for February 10, 2009. Image credit: NOAA/SPC.


Figure 2. January 2009 precipitation was the 5th lowest on record for the contiguous U.S. Image credit: NOAA/NCDC.

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Charleston, SC - Portlight Strategies, Inc., - a national grassroots non-profit organization--announced this week that Weather Underground, Inc., will be National Sponsor of the First Annual Portlight Relief Walk series of national awareness and fund raising events. Hundreds of members of the Weather Underground blog community teamed with Portlight Strategies, Inc., throughout the Fall of 2008 to provide much need relief services and supplies to victims of Hurricane Ike along the Texas coast.

These relief efforts focused on helping people with disabilities, as well as people in small towns and rural areas often marginalized by the larger institutional relief infrastructure.

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In order to expand our community of supporters - and to create a financial reserve to enable strategic, proactive response in the future--Portlight is organizing walk-a-thon style events in 40 U S cities. Organizing committees have already begun meeting to plan these events in their hometowns and communities. Relief Walks will be held on weekends through the Spring and early Summer.

"Weather Underground stepping up to be our National Sponsor is a huge honor" said Paul Timmons, Jr., Portlight Strategies, Inc., Board Chair. "Our Ike efforts were born of hundreds of weather lovers coming together on the www.wunderground.com site. It's a perfect fit that Weather Underground will sponsor our first national event."

"Weather Underground is proud to have facilitated Portlight's initial success"' said Toby Skinner, of Weather Underground, Inc. "And we are pleased to be National Sponsor of Portlight's First Annual National Relief Walk event.

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I'll have a new blog post on Thursday.

Jeff Masters

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311. Cotillion
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 12:36 (GMT)
Is that... could it be?

A whopping 9 degrees next week!? Wow. We may actually get above freezing for the first time in what seems, weeks...

Spring. <3
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310. melwerle
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 12:30 (GMT)
Good Morning!

Are we supposed to have thunderstorms in GA tomorrow? We're supposed to be in a sailboat race in the afternoon - I don't mind the rain but won't do the tstorms on a boat...any clues?
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308. charlottefl
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 11:27 (GMT)
What's really weird to me is in 2010 Charley won't be on the list. It's hard to believe we're approaching 5 years since we went through that little monster.
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307. indianrivguy
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 11:24 (GMT)
Orca.. thanks for the info bro.. I had a nice long post all ready to go and poof.. it was gone.. dangit. Sorry about that reading thing bro. :) ol Timmy has been rude and mean as a snake the last couple weeks I wonder whats up.
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306. Catherdr
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 11:09 (GMT)
More like 37 degrees here in SOGANOFLA (South Georgia/North Florida)

Some speculation starting to turn up is that wing icing caused plane crash last night.
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305. surfmom
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 11:03 (GMT)
Waiting on Sunrise - 62 Degrees in SWFL
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304. CybrTeddy
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 10:22 (GMT)
108 Days till Hurricane season.
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303. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 09:42 (GMT)
Philippines Atmospherical Geophysical Astronmonical Services and Administration

Tropical Depression "BISING" has weakened into a Low Pressure Area as it interacted with the land mass of Northern Mindanao and Eastern Visayas.

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #5 (0900z 13FEB) - FINAL
============================================
At 5:00 p.m. PhST, Tropical Depression Bising located at 10.2°N 125.9°E or 70 kms northeast of Surigao City has weakened below warning criteria.

Additional Information
-------------------
All Warning Signal That Was In Effect Are Now Lowered

However, this weather disturbance and the tail-end of a cold front will continue to bring rains over Visayas and Mindanao particularly the Northern and Eastern Visayas as well as Northern and Central Mindanao. Residents along these areas are alerted against possible flashfloods and landslides.

With this development and unless re-intensification occurs, this is the final bulletin on this weather disturbance.
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302. KEHCharleston
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 07:14 (GMT)
Quoting theshepherd:
I'm sure they meant harvested wood as dead wood picked up would certainly not be of sufficient quantity or quality.
That would fit in with the deforestation, certainly the Mayans would have had the technology for large scale deforestation. Somehow, though I always thought of deforestation as a contemporary problem. Although looking at Haiti, it really does not take a concerted effort or technology to deforest an area.

Interesting world we live in Shep. Lawd knows that I have learned much on these blogs, and my curiosity is constantly being pricked.

Lights out for me. Will check back in the morning.
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301. KoritheMan
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:51 (GMT)
Quoting Cotillion:
I actually don't feel too bad about this year's names. I think Erika and/or Grace will be a nuisance.

The year I see upcoming which leaves an unease in my waters is 2012... got a baaaaad feeling about that one.


I would agree with your notion that 2012 will be bad if it had any other naming list other than List 4. Save for in 1988, there wasn't anything terribly notable about that list. I'm not expecting it to be different in 2012.
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300. theshepherd
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:31 (GMT)
Quoting sarasotaman:
Why does Orca want to argue with tampa spin! MAN I ONLY POST SO LITTLE OUT OF HURRICANE season and i love orcas. but Mr systems you are wrong

Why don't you ask Orca directly instead of all that drama?
Tim is big enough to stand up for Tim.
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299. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:26 (GMT)
"nose-diving" into a house?

how scary
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298. theshepherd
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:26 (GMT)
Quoting KEHCharleston:

Surprised me as well. Will have to ponder that a bit.
I had Aztec on the brain with the Spaniard thingy.
I'm sure they meant harvested wood as dead wood picked up would certainly not be of sufficient quantity or quality.
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297. KEHCharleston
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:21 (GMT)
Buffalo News

Unconfirmed reports from a source at Buffalo Niagara International Airport said that the dead included 44 passengers, four crew members and a person on the ground.
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296. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:20 (GMT)
wow large fire :X
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295. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:17 (GMT)
NEW YORK, Feb. 13 (Xinhua) -- An airliner with 48 people on board crashed in the U.S. State of New York on Tuesday evening, local media reported overnight.

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wait what?!.. then later it states Thursday..
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294. KEHCharleston
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:16 (GMT)
Quoting theshepherd:
285 KEH
It's all good. It's good that you question the record. Thinking that civilized primatives aren't survivalist by nature and reporting that green wood reaches a higher temperature than cured is a curious idea indeed.

Surprised me as well. Will have to ponder that a bit.
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293. sarasotaman
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:15 (GMT)
Why does Orca want to argue with tampa spin! MAN I ONLY POST SO LITTLE OUT OF HURRICANE season and i love orcas. but Mr systems you are wrong
292. Beachfoxx
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:13 (GMT)
Colgan - commuter flight
Operated by Continental.
Continental has an excellent safety record.
Not good news...
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291. theshepherd
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:13 (GMT)
285 KEH
It's all good. It's good that you question the record. Thinking that civilized primatives aren't survivalist by nature and reporting that green wood reaches a higher temperature than cured is a curious idea indeed.
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290. Beachfoxx
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:09 (GMT)
Colgan - commuter flight
Operated by Continental.
Continental has an excellent safety record.
Not good news...
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289. Beachfoxx
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:08 (GMT)
Plane crashes in U.S. New York State, 48 on board
NEW YORK, Feb. 13 (Xinhua) -- An airliner with 48 people on board crashed in the U.S. State of New York on Tuesday evening, local media reported overnight.

The crash occurred at around 10:20 p.m. Thursday in suburban Buffalo in northern New York State, as the 50-seat commuter plane crashed into a home, TV networks including CNN reported.

CNN quoted Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as saying that the plane had 48 people on board, and their fate remained unknown.

It also remained unclear whether the crash caused any ground casualties.

TV footage showed that massive fire broke out at the scene of crash, while firemen and police rushed to the scene for rescue.
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288. sarasotaman
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:07 (GMT)
Yes a plane has crashed
287. Beachfoxx
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:05 (GMT)
Oh Dang! Not good news. found it... Thanks Tampa.
Oh Geez - Continental.
They have an excellent record. Only 7 or 8 crashes in their history.
Quoting Beachfoxx:
What??? Where did you see that?
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286. Beachfoxx
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 06:03 (GMT)
What??? Where did you see that?
Quoting TampaSpin:
A Commerical Air Craft just crashed within the Buffalo NY aree....
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285. KEHCharleston
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 05:59 (GMT)
Quoting theshepherd:

Not hardly.
Try murder, disease and dispersion.

I agree with the horror that the peoples of the Americas faced with the influx of the conquistadors. However, as I understood it, at its height, the Mayan Empire was a very sophistocated pre-Columbian Civilization. So I did a quick 'google' to see if my memory served me correctly or not.

From Authentic Maya:
The Mayan Culture developed between 3000 and 2000 BC. Pollen samples has shown the establishments of agriculture in Guatemala by 4000 BC, and around 2500 BC initiated the building of small cities with some permanent architecture all over the country (Pre-Classic). According to Houston the Cho'lan language, the precursor to the Maya, originated in the Guatemalan Highlands, ca 3000 BC. In the tropical lowlands of El Mirador Basin, in the Peten Lowlands, Northern Guatemala, that lead to huge cities like Mirador, Nakbe, San Bartolo, Tintal and others, although there were some early cities in the Guatemala Highlands (Naranjo, Kaminal Juyu, Nebaj, Guaytan, El Porton), and in the Pacific Low Lands (Tak'alik Abaj, Chocola), that does not reach the size of those in Peten where they build at least 27 big cities and countless smaller ones at its peak around 250 BC, then, suffered a first collapse around 150 AD, and resurging on 250 AD (Early Classic) with large cities such as Tikal, Naranjo, Yaxha, Cancuen, Machaquila, Ceibal, Piedras Negras, Quirigua, Uaxactun, and many more until their final collapse around 900 A.D. (Terminal-Classic).

.
Though the Spanish were not responsible for the fall of the Mayan Empire, they certainly were responsible for the loss of so much information. (The Mayans kept written records).

My original remark "Wasn't it problems with corn production that did in the Mayans?" was meant as sort of tongue-in-cheek response to those post regarding corn/ethanol and 2012/Mayan Calendar.

I truly thought that I remembered a problem with the maize, however. Here though my memory did not serve me well at all.
Decline and eventual "Collapse" of the Mayan civilization has been attributed to inveracities wars, famine, natural calamity, disruption of trade routes, popular unrests and more, but the Figurines from Aguatecareal reason is still a mystery. Surely it was a mix of all those theories, but the constant need for cal (stucco) to cover the big Temples, most certainly produced a complete deforestation in a land not suited for agricultural use, but for Forestry, due to its very little humus contain. To cover just one Temple with stucco, The Mayas had to cut 400 Ha. of forest, because only green wood reaches enough temperature to form it, and there were hundreds of big structures in their cities.
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284. theshepherd
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 05:50 (GMT)
Quoting Orcasystems:


Don't forget the Spanish
That was the murder and disease thingy.
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283. TampaSpin
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 05:40 (GMT)
A Commerical Air Craft just crashed within the Buffalo NY area....
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282. TampaSpin
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 05:37 (GMT)
Quoting Orcasystems:


Hmm read the lines.. not between... he said "What you read on the Internet isn't always true", thats actually a statement of fact :)


Again you can't read between the lines...OMG!!! WOW!
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281. Orcasystems
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 05:25 (GMT)
Quoting theshepherd:

Not hardly.
Try murder, disease and dispersion.


Don't forget the Spanish
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280. theshepherd
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 05:09 (GMT)
Quoting KEHCharleston:

Wasn't it problems with corn production that did in the Mayans?

Not hardly.
Try murder, disease and dispersion.
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279. gordydunnot
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 04:13 (GMT)
Hey 263 email the fox network they know everything. They can tell you then you decide.
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278. AussieStorm
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:56 (GMT)

15 fires still burning in Victoria
Article from: AAP

February 13, 2009 02:43pm

GOOD weather will give firefighters little respite this weekend as 15 fires continue to burn across Victoria.
Country Fire Authority (CFA) deputy chief John Haynes said the main focus for 3000 firefighters on the job was to consolidate containment lines at all fire sites.

The blaze of most concern today was in the township Chum Creek, north-west of Healesville, Mr Haynes said.

"That will put up quite a lot of smoke today, it was active overnight, there was backburning to consolidate the control lines and that will now be burning out," he said.

He warned there would be smoke and ash moving over Melbourne's central business district and the outskirts of eastern suburbs brought on by easterly winds for the rest of today and into tomorrow.

"Although we've had some really good weather over the last couple of days with lower winds, (and) we've done a lot of good work in stitching up a lot of the fire edges, there is still a threat across Victoria," he said.

"There is a threat for weeks to come."

He called on Melbourne residents to avoid dialling triple-zero if they saw smoke or ash. However people should alert authorities if they saw flames.

CFA and Department of Sustainability and Environment crews and bulldozers would be on site controlling the blaze at Chum Creek, Mr Haynes said.

An uncontained edge of a fire burning around the Maroondah Reservoir was also of concern, he said.

"It's very difficult country - steep, dippy, rocky and then high mountain forest - so it will take time," he said.

A fire at O'Shannassy Reservoir also continues to burn but the blaze at Upper Yarra Dam is largely contained. The other concern is the Rubicon area on the northeast corner of the Murrindindi complex east of Alexandra.

"It flared overnight, it will flare again today although again the easterly (wind) will push it back on itself. It's good in some ways but we're expecting quite a deal of fire activity there," Mr Haynes said.

The Bunyip fire should not pose any threat for the rest of today, despite activity in the northeast and northwest corners. Rain had helped settle activity in east Gippsland near Dargo but with low rainfall, firefighters at Wilson's Promontory are expecting flare-ups in coming days.

"We're monitoring that and that poses no threats to assets," Mr Haynes said
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277. TheoJesse
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:56 (GMT)
Thanks Orca
Too much crap on the media.
Jesse
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276. Patrap
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:53 (GMT)
Our Thoughts and Prayers go out to you and Your Countrymen AussieStorm.

And thanks for bringing the story to us so well.




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275. Orcasystems
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:53 (GMT)
Quoting TheoJesse:
AussieStorm
AP said over 200 deaths. Is 181 actual, or part of the fires left out?
Jesse


I believe there are still a fair amount of people officially listed as missing. The 181 is confirmed deaths.
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274. Orcasystems
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:51 (GMT)
Quoting TampaSpin:


Are you sure everything on the Internet is not true....Guess i got to rethink some things!


Hmm read the lines.. not between... he said "What you read on the Internet isn't always true", thats actually a statement of fact :)
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273. TheoJesse
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:50 (GMT)
Quoting AussieStorm:
Victorian Bushfires Update:
2:30pm Friday 13 February
Deaths: 181
Homes Destroyed: 1800
People left homeless:7000
AussieStorm
AP said over 200 deaths. Is 181 actual, or part of the fires left out?
Jesse
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272. AussieStorm
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:49 (GMT)
Many thanks to Dr. Masters for doing a blog on the Victorian Bushfire Tragedy. And a big thanks to all that contributed to the blog also and a mega thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers.
Cheers AussieStorm
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271. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:48 (GMT)
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
Forecast for area south of 10S between 110E-125E
10:00 AM WDT February 13 2009
=========================================

A weak tropical low now lies well off the west Kimberley coast near 14.5S 116.5E at 9am WDT. It is likely to move in a generally west southwest direction in the next 24 to 48 hours and is not likely to affect the coast. It is unlikely to reach tropical cyclone intensity during Saturday but has some potential to develop into a tropical cyclone on Sunday or Monday.

There are no other significant lows expected to develop during the outlook period.

Tropical Cyclone Formation Potential
==============================
Saturday: Low
Sunday: Moderate
Monday: Moderate
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270. AussieStorm
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:39 (GMT)
Victorian Bushfires Update:
2:30pm Friday 13 February
Deaths: 181
Homes Destroyed: 1800
People left homeless:7000
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269. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:38 (GMT)
Philippines Atmospherical Geophysical Astronmonical Services and Administration

Tropical Depression "BISING " has slowed down as it moves closer to the eastern coast of Surigao Del Norte

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #4 (0300z 13FEB)
============================================
At 11:00 a.m. PhST, Tropical Depression Bising located at 9.9°N 125.7°E or 30 kms northeast of Surigao City has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots.

Warning Signals

Warning Signals #1 (30-60 km/h)
---------------------

Visayas Region
1.Eastern Samar
2.Western Samar
3.Biliran Island
4.Leyte Provinces
5.Northern Cebu
6.Bohol

Mindanao Region
1.Dinagat Province
2.Siargao Island
3.Surigao del Norte
4.Surigao del Sur
5.Agusan del Norte

Additional Information
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Public Storm Signal #1 elsewhere is now lowered.

Residents living in low lying and near mountainous slopes in areas under signal #1 are alerted against possible flashfloods and landslides.

The public and the disaster coordinating councils concerned are advised to take appropriate actions and watch for the next bulletin to be issued at 5 PM today
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268. AussieStorm
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 03:32 (GMT)
Link

Interactive map Link
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267. KEHCharleston
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:42 (GMT)
Quoting Stlouiskid:
You would think that if the Mayans were so good at predicting the future..that they would be alive today...eh?
Quoting SevereHurricane:
The Mayans didnt predict there future,
they were obsessed with telling time and astronomy, and they knew what would happen next becuase alot of things happen in cycles, and just like the other 99% of the other things that lived before them they were wiped out too.

Wasn't it problems with corn production that did in the Mayans?
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266. Ossqss
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:17 (GMT)
All kidding aside, what are we interpreting with the water temp models in the Pacific moving around? El, La --Na -- gut feeling?
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265. Ossqss
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:10 (GMT)
Quoting SevereHurricane:


The Mayans didnt predict there future,
they were obsessed with telling time and astronomy, and they knew what would happen next becuase alot of things happen in cycles, and just like the other 99% of the other things that lived before them they were wiped out too.


I believe we all wish to stay in the 1th percentile. It is kinda a requirement.
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264. SevereHurricane
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:07 (GMT)
Quoting Stlouiskid:

You would think that if the Mayans were so good at predicting the future..that they would be alive today...eh?


The Mayans didnt predict there future,
they were obsessed with telling time and astronomy, and they knew what would happen next becuase alot of things happen in cycles, and just like the other 99% of the other things that lived before them they were wiped out too.
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263. Ossqss
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:06 (GMT)
Quoting TampaSpin:


Are you sure everything on the Internet is not true....Guess i got to rethink some things!


Mr. Spin, you are on to something that could be interesting and rewarding. Perhaps you could post a poll as to this subject -- How do people verify information on the internet is legitimate?

IE. Snopes, Noaa, etc. You are about to close the last, so please consider this opportunity.

And thanks for the last, it was interesting also.
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262. Stlouiskid
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:01 (GMT)
Quoting Cotillion:
I actually don't feel too bad about this year's names. I think Erika and/or Grace will be a nuisance.

The year I see upcoming which leaves an unease in my waters is 2012... got a baaaaad feeling about that one.

You would think that if the Mayans were so good at predicting the future..that they would be alive today...eh?
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261. TampaSpin
13. helmikuuta 2009 klo 02:01 (GMT)
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


What you read on the Internet isn't always true. The statements on Planet X are unreliable as they rely mostly on ancient prophecies and on almost no solid information, and even those prophecies might have been cherry-picked to find the details they want. I can't say for sure that nothing big will happen in 2012, but then again something big happens somewhere in the world every year, and countless doomsday predictions have failed in the past, although you could perhaps count 2012 as a doomsday because the Kyoto Protocol will expire and then we will find we haven't done enough on global warming, which will cause the REAL end-of-civillization. :P


Are you sure everything on the Internet is not true....Guess i got to rethink some things!
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