AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI 748 PM EDT WED JUN 19 2013 .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY) ISSUED AT 429 PM EDT WED JUN 19 2013 WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED WNW MID/UPPER LEVEL FLOW THROUGH THEN NRN GREAT LAKES BETWEEN A TROUGH OVER ERN CANADA AND A RIDGE OVER THE PLAINS. SCT SHRA AND ISOLD TSRA HAD DEVELOPED NEAR CYRL ON THE TAIL OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH THROUGH NW ONTARIO. AN UPSTREAM SHRTWV WAS ALSO LOCATED OVER ERN SD. AT THE SFC...SRLY WINDS HAD INCREASED BETWEEN HIGH PRES OVER THE ERN GREAT LAKES AND A TROUGH EXTENDING INTO ND FROM LOW PRES W OF JAMES BAY. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WAS ONLY SLOWLY INCREASING WITH DEWPOINTS CLIMBING TO NEAR 50F OVER THE WEST. TONIGHT...EVEN THOUGH THE FORCING WITH THE NW ONTARIO SHRTWV WILL REMAIN NORTH OF THE CWA...MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE SHRA AND POSSIBLY SOME TSRA WILL DEVELOP LATER THIS EVENING NW OF LAKE SUPERIOR AND SLIDE INTO THE WRN CWA OVERNIGHT. MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND THE POSITION OF THE 850-700 MB FRONTAL ZONE FAVORS GREATER PCPN CHANCES/COVERAGE OVER NW LAKE SUPERIOR INTO MAINLY THE NW CWA. MUCAPE VALUES ARE EXPECTED TO BE HIGH ENOUGH FOR ELEVATED TSRA DEVELOPMENT. THURSDAY...THE COMBINATION OF INCREASING MOISTURE TRANSPORT...DAYTIME HEATING AND THE SD SHRTWV SHOULD BRING INCREASING SHRA/TSRA COVERAGE ACROSS THE CWA. ALTHOUGH INSTABILITY WILL BE MARGINAL FOR STRONGER STORMS WITH MLCAPE VALUES INTO THE 500-1000 J/KG RANGE...AND A RELATIVELY NARROW CAPE PROFILE....SOME STORMS WITH SMALL HAIL AND GUSTY WINDS TO 35 MPH MAY BE POSSIBLE. .LONG TERM...(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY) ISSUED AT 429 PM EDT WED JUN 19 2013 CONVECTION WILL MAKE FOR A VERY TRICKY AND UNCERTAIN FORECAST THU NIGHT THROUGH AT LEAST THE WEEKEND. AN UPPER RIDGE WILL MOVE E INTO THE AREA THU NIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. AT THE SFC...A WEAK LOW WILL REMAIN FAIRLY STATIONARY OVER THE CENTRAL AND NRN PLAINS...LEAVING A WARM FRONT ACROSS OR NEAR THE CWA THROUGH THIS WEEKEND. CONFIDENCE IS VERY LOW /AS WITH MOST CONVECTIVE SITUATIONS/ WITH THE EXACT TRACK/TIMING OF ANY CONVECTIVE COMPLEXES MOVING ALONG OR NEAR THE WARM FRONT. MODELS SHOW MULTIPLE SCENARIOS FOR CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT AND MOVEMENT...INCLUDING MOVING THE WARM FRONT N OF THE CWA KEEPING THE BULK OF CONVECTION N OF THE CWA...TO HAVING THE WARM FRONT STALL S OF THE CWA WHICH WOULD KEEP MOST OF THE CONVECTION S. OVERALL...THE BULK OF THE MODELS SHOW CONVECTIVE COMPLEXES MOVING OVER THE CWA...SO WILL CONTINUE TO PUT THAT INTO THE FORECAST AS HAS BEEN DONE BY PREVIOUS SHIFTS. SOME OF THE THUNDERSTORMS COULD VERY WELL BE STRONG WITH LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS THE PRIMARY THREATS...BUT CONFIDENCE IS STILL TOO LOW TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE FORECAST BUT WILL CONTINUE SOME MENTION OF STRONGER STORMS IN THE HWO. SPC HAS AREAS ALONG THE BORDER UNDER A SLIGHT RIGHT...AND GENERALLY AGREE WITH THAT GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THE GREATEST INSTABILITY. MODELS SHOW UP TO 4500J/KG /GFS/ OF SBCAPE NOSING INTO WRN UPPER MI FRI AFTERNOON...BUT THAT IS THE HIGHEST AMOUNT AND LOOKS LIKE LOW LEVELS ARE OVERLY MOIST IN THE MODEL. THE NAM IS ANOTHER MODEL THAT SEEMS TOO HIGH ON LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND SBCAPE AT UP TO 3500J/KG ON FRI. ECMWF AND GEM SEEM MORE REASONABLE AT 1000-1500J/KG ALONG THE WI BORDER SO WILL FAVOR THAT SOLUTION. COULD HAVE DAYTIME CONVECTION BREAK OUT OVER WRN AND CENTRAL UPPER MI...BUT MOST LIKELY SCENARIO AT THIS POINT CONTINUES TO BE CONVECTION FORMING UPSTREAM AND MOVING TO THE ESE ALONG THE FORWARD PROPAGATING CORFIDI VECTORS AND INSTABILITY GRADIENT FRI. ANOTHER RISK FACTOR WILL BE HEAVY RAIN WITH ANY THUNDERSTORMS AS PWATS WILL BE 150-200 PERCENT OF NORMAL. SAT AND SUN LOOK SIMILAR TO FRI...WITH SIMILAR UNCERTAINTY DUE TO CONVECTIVE UNCERTAINTY. IN FACT...SIMILAR CONDITIONS SHOULD BE OBSERVED INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK...BUT CONFIDENCE INCREASES TOO MUCH MON-WED TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS TIME FRAME. LOOKING AT TEMPS...SHOULD SEE SFC TEMPS INCREASE SLIGHTLY FROM DAY TO DAY THROUGH THE FORECAST PEROID WITH HIGHS IN THE 80S ACROSS A LARGE PART OF UPPER MI BY SUN. && .AVIATION...(FOR THE 00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z THURSDAY EVENING) ISSUED AT 748 PM EDT WED JUN 19 2013 VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE AT KIWD/KCMX/KSAW THRU THE EVENING. OVERNIGHT...ATTENTION TURNS TO SFC TROF DROPPING S TOWARD THE UPPER LAKES IN ASSOCIATION WITH SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY PASSING THRU NRN ONTARIO. SCT SHRA/TSRA ARE CURRENTLY OCCURRING ALONG/AHEAD OF TROF...AND SOME OF THOSE SHRA MAY HOLD TOGETHER AND AFFECT ALL 3 TERMINALS LATE TONIGHT/THU MORNING. WITH COVERAGE LIMITED... CONFIDENCE IN SHRA OCCURRING AT EACH TERMINAL IS LOW...SO VCSH WAS UTILIZED EXCEPT AT KCMX WHICH MAY HAVE A SLIGHTLY BETTER POTENTIAL OF SHRA. IF SHRA DO OCCUR AT KCMX AND ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR... STRATUS/MVFR CIGS AND FOG/MVFR VIS MAY DEVELOP AT KCMX...ESPECIALLY IF AN E WIND DEVELOPS EARLY IN THE DAY. DURING THE AFTN...DAYTIME HEATING SHOULD GENERATE SCT SHRA/TSRA ACROSS UPPER MI WITH BETTER POTENTIAL AT KIWD/KSAW. AGAIN...THERE IS LIMITED CONFIDENCE IN PCPN ACTUALLY OCCURRING AT A TERMINAL...SO ONLY VCTS WAS INCLUDED IN FCST. IF SHRA/TSRA OCCUR AT ANY TERMINAL THU...MVFR CONDITIONS WOULD LIKELY ACCOMPANY PCPN. && .MARINE...(FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE) ISSUED AT 429 PM EDT WED JUN 19 2013 WINDS SHOULD REMAIN BELOW 25KTS THROUGH THE PERIOD...WITH RELATIVELY LOW WAVES. THE MAIN HAZARD WILL BE STRONGER WINDS/HAIL/LIGHTNING WITH ANY THUNDERSTORMS MOVING ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. AREAS OF FOG THAT DEVELOP AS A RESULT OF INCREASED MOISTURE AND SHOWER ACTIVITY MAY ALSO BECOME LOCALLY DENSE. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN... NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR... NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN... NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JLB LONG TERM...TITUS AVIATION...ROLFSON MARINE...JLB