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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Marquette Michigan 
757 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Update... 
issued at 729 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Increasing clouds...particularly in the north...with the middle to low 
clouds pushing in from south central Canada and across Lake 
Superior. Even the small scale/local forecast models did not pick this 
up well. There looks to be some breaks in the clouds as they move 
across Lake Superior...but with strong northerly flow...expect them 
to stick around through much of the morning hours over the northern 
reaches of the County Warning Area. 
&& 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 455 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


As has been the case over the past couple of mornings...we have been 
keeping a close eye on a few of the rivers over the west half of Upper 
Michigan...that have been rising with our steady rains. The rain continues 
to shift to our southeast...as of 830z southeast of a line from Pembine and Powers 
to Grand Marais. Expect all but a little lingering dz by 12z over 
the far east. 


The main threats over the next 24 hours will be the gusty north-north-northwest 
winds today and frost/freeze overnight. The increased pressure 
gradient between the exiting surface low stretching from the lower Great 
Lakes to S Quebec...and strong high sinking in from central Canada 
will keep gusts in the 20-25kt range through much of the day. Expect 
the stronger winds to diminish west to east through the day today. 


If we did not have as much rain as we have had since may 19th...and 
high temperatures were going to be a bit warmer...today may have been 
considered a fire day. High temperatures should be in the 40s near Lake 
Superior...while in the 50s well inland. Precipitable water values in all the cold 
dry air will fall to around 20-25 percent of normal /or around 
0.2in/ over west and central Upper Michigan by 18z today...with relative humidity values 
bottoming out 25-30 percent over the interior west half. 


As for tonight...the lowest temperatures to be over the typical cool 
locations of the interior west half of Upper Michigan. Under a strong 
inversion...light winds should help surface temperatures fall into the low 20s. 
Along the central and Eastern Lake shores temperatures in the middle 30s will 
be more common. Precipitable water values will rebound slightly...up to around 40 
percent of normal by 12z /or around 0.3in/. It/S the perfect time to 
remember that normal lows are generally in the low 40s for this time 
of year...and frost/freeze conditions are common. We will officially 
begin our frost/freeze headline program on may 27th. Until then the 
potential will continue to be highlighted in the forecast and in the 
severe weather potential statement. 


Long term...(friday through wednesday) 
issued at 455 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Upper air pattern will consist of a 500 mb trough in the eastern U.S. 
With a closed 500 mb low and trough in the Pacific northwest and a ridge 
between the two troughs over the central U.S. 12z Friday. Trough in the 
eastern U.S. Moves slowly the the eastern Seaboard 12z Sat with the 
ridge building into the plains and this remains into 12z sun. 


Interesting to note that the models keep trying to generate some 
precipitation on Friday night into Sat over the western County Warning Area. Looks like the 
right rear quadrant of a jet streak is moving across the area...but 
thinking is that moisture will be hard to come by with the surface ridge 
in place and dry air will win out...so continued the dry forecast 
for Friday night into Sat. Think the models might be overdone with 
their moisture and with the jet streak near the area...will see some 
middle and high level clouds instead. Did go slightly cooler for high 
and low temperatures for Friday and Saturday based on mixing 850 mb 
temperatures down to the surface. At best...this gives ME lower 60s for 
highs on Saturday and lowered a few degrees from going forecast 
based on this and also the cold start to the morning on Friday 
night. Ideal radiational cooling conditions set up for Friday night and 
Sat night which would argue for lower temperatures with the light 
winds. Other than that...kept forecast dry and kept some frost in 
the forecast even though frost and freeze products are not done yet 
with growing season not really starting until after Memorial Day. 


In the extended...GFS and European model (ecmwf) all show a 500 mb trough in the 
Pacific northwest and one over New England with a closed low there and a 
ridge over the plains 12z sun. The ridge moves east into the 
Mississippi River valley 12z Monday. Pattern does not change much for 
12z Tuesday into 12z Wednesday except that a surface warm front heads slowly north 
towards the area. This period will also start a slow warming trend 
with temperatures below normal going to near normal towards the end 
of the period as a ridge builds into the upper Great Lakes 12z Wednesday. 
With the warm front approaching the area...chances for precipitation start to 
increase Monday night across the west and then across the entire County Warning Area 
by Tuesday night. Will go with slight chance to very low chance probability of precipitation as 
the warm front approaches the area. 
&& 


Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Friday morning) 
issued at 757 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Strong winds gusting 20-30kts will diminish west to east today...as 
the pressure gradient weakens between the exiting surface low over the 
lower Great Lakes and southern Quebec...and the strong high pressure 
system sinking in from central Canada. Expect gusts of 20kts or 
greater at saw during the entire daylight hours today. Otherwise 
expect improving conditions. 
&& 


Marine...(for the 4 am Lake Superior forecast issuance) 
issued at 455 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Winds will continue to decrease across the area as the pressure 
gradient loosens as high pressure moves into the area. Drier air 
will also move across the area allowing any lingering fog to 
dissipate. As high pressure continues to spread across the upper 
Great Lakes through the weekend...expect winds less than 20 kts on 
Lake Superior. Lighter winds will continue into early next week. 
&& 


MQT watches/warnings/advisories... 
Upper Michigan... 
none. 
Lake Superior... 
none. 
Lake Michigan... 
none. 
&& 


$$ 


Update...kf 
short term...kf 
long term...07 
aviation...kf 
marine...07