Area forecast discussion National Weather Service La Crosse WI 336 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 Short term...(this evening through saturday) issued at 334 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 At 3 PM...a 1003 mb high pressure system...centered over Lake Michigan...kept skies partly sunny across the upper Mississippi River valley. Meanwhile further west...a short wave was producing showers and thunderstorms across the eastern quarter of the Dakotas and western Minnesota. The mesoscale and deterministic models are continuing to struggle with the eastward progress of this precipitation tonight. The European model (ecmwf) and hrrr move this precipitation across most of forecast area by 25.06z. Meanwhile the nmm...arw...GFS...Gem...rap... and NAM mainly confine the precipitation west of the Mississippi River this evening...and then moves it across the remainder of the area overnight. Since the convection across the Dakotas will be moving into an area with less frontogenetic forcing...moisture transport...weak isentropic lift...and drier air...decided to trend the forecast toward the latter model set. In addition...the radar echos across western Minnesota are showing a decreasing trend. Even by doing this...there is some variations amongst them...so tried to go with an ensemble approach when assigning the hourly precipitation chances. The highest precipitation chance and amounts /up to a half inch/ will be found across across southeast Minnesota and northeast Iowa. On Saturday...the short wave will move east southeast across Iowa. As this occurs...the 850 mb moisture transport and isentropic lift will gradually weaken. As a result...went with a decreasing trend in the precipitation trends from late morning into the afternoon. Additional raifall amounts will be less than 2 tenths of an inch. With the 24.12z and 24.18z models in good agreement that there will be less than 100 j/kg convective available potential energy...just kept an isolated thunderstorm chance mainly west and south if the Interstate 94 corridor. Long term...(saturday night through friday) issued at 334 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 From Saturday night through Sunday night...the warm front will remain well southwest of the forecast area. As a result... southeast Minnesota...northeast Iowa...and southwest Wisconsin will remain cloudy with periodic showers and maybe an isolated thunderstorm. Over the past 3 days...the consall has continued to trend toward cooler high temperatures for Sunday. It now has high temperatures around 60. Meanwhile the European model (ecmwf) only has high temperatures in the lower 50s for these areas. Since the European model (ecmwf) typically verifies the best for this time period...went with a blend of the consall...consallbc...and emcwf. From Memorial Day into Tuesday...the models are continuing to show that a warm front will move northward into the area. This will allow ml convective available potential energy to climb into the 1k to 3k j/kg range. As a result...expect the thunderstorm chances to increase during this time period. The 0-3km shear would be favorable for the possibility that a few thunderstorms may be capable of producing large hail and damaging winds. From Tuesday night into Friday...the models continue to struggle on where the warm sector will be located. This greatly affects the where the precipitation may be located. In addition...it will also affect the shear and instability...thus...there is a lot of uncertainty on whether there will be any severe weather. && Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Saturday afternoon) issued at 1214 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 Focus of the forecast is on the potential for showers late tonight into Saturday morning. Short wave trough in the Lee of The Rockies over Wyoming is expected to top the mean ridge and slide across the region late tonight and Saturday morning. An axis of moisture transport is expected to develop this afternoon ahead of this wave then Bend to the northeast and be focused into the area late tonight. However...this will be weakening through the night and will not be very strong by the time it becomes focused on the local area. The forcing from the wave and the weak moisture transport should be enough to generate some showers. Expect these will move into both taf sites between 09z and 12z. The showers should be light enough to not produce any visibility restriction but could produce some MVFR ceilings as the rain saturates the low levels of the column enough to allow the ceilings to lower. The 24.09z sref shows the better probabilities of this occurring are west of the Mississippi River so have included this at krst. The isentropic upglide on the 300k surface begins to weaken after 15z Saturday but does continue for the remainder of the morning and should be enough to keep some showers or sprinkles going through the end of the forecast period. && Arx watches/warnings/advisories... WI...none. Minnesota...none. Iowa...none. && $$ Short term...boyne long term...boyne aviation...04