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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service La Crosse WI 
336 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 


Short term...(this evening through saturday) 
issued at 334 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 


At 3 PM...a 1003 mb high pressure system...centered over Lake 
Michigan...kept skies partly sunny across the upper Mississippi 
River valley. Meanwhile further west...a short wave was producing 
showers and thunderstorms across the eastern quarter of the 
Dakotas and western Minnesota. The mesoscale and deterministic models are 
continuing to struggle with the eastward progress of this 
precipitation tonight. The European model (ecmwf) and hrrr move this precipitation 
across most of forecast area by 25.06z. Meanwhile the 
nmm...arw...GFS...Gem...rap... and NAM mainly confine the 
precipitation west of the Mississippi River this evening...and 
then moves it across the remainder of the area overnight. Since 
the convection across the Dakotas will be moving into an area with 
less frontogenetic forcing...moisture transport...weak isentropic 
lift...and drier air...decided to trend the forecast toward the 
latter model set. In addition...the radar echos across western 
Minnesota are showing a decreasing trend. Even by doing 
this...there is some variations amongst them...so tried to go with 
an ensemble approach when assigning the hourly precipitation 
chances. The highest precipitation chance and amounts /up to a 
half inch/ will be found across across southeast Minnesota and 
northeast Iowa. 


On Saturday...the short wave will move east southeast across Iowa. 
As this occurs...the 850 mb moisture transport and isentropic lift 
will gradually weaken. As a result...went with a decreasing trend 
in the precipitation trends from late morning into the afternoon. 
Additional raifall amounts will be less than 2 tenths of an inch. 


With the 24.12z and 24.18z models in good agreement that there 
will be less than 100 j/kg convective available potential energy...just kept an isolated 
thunderstorm chance mainly west and south if the Interstate 94 
corridor. 


Long term...(saturday night through friday) 
issued at 334 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 


From Saturday night through Sunday night...the warm front will 
remain well southwest of the forecast area. As a result... 
southeast Minnesota...northeast Iowa...and southwest Wisconsin 
will remain cloudy with periodic showers and maybe an isolated 
thunderstorm. Over the past 3 days...the consall has continued 
to trend toward cooler high temperatures for Sunday. It now has 
high temperatures around 60. Meanwhile the European model (ecmwf) only has high 
temperatures in the lower 50s for these areas. Since the European model (ecmwf) 
typically verifies the best for this time period...went with a 
blend of the consall...consallbc...and emcwf. 


From Memorial Day into Tuesday...the models are continuing to show 
that a warm front will move northward into the area. This will 
allow ml convective available potential energy to climb into the 1k to 3k j/kg range. As a 
result...expect the thunderstorm chances to increase during this 
time period. The 0-3km shear would be favorable for the 
possibility that a few thunderstorms may be capable of producing 
large hail and damaging winds. 


From Tuesday night into Friday...the models continue to struggle 
on where the warm sector will be located. This greatly affects 
the where the precipitation may be located. In addition...it will 
also affect the shear and instability...thus...there is a lot of 
uncertainty on whether there will be any severe weather. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Saturday afternoon) 
issued at 1214 PM CDT Friday may 24 2013 


Focus of the forecast is on the potential for showers late tonight 
into Saturday morning. Short wave trough in the Lee of The Rockies 
over Wyoming is expected to top the mean ridge and slide across 
the region late tonight and Saturday morning. An axis of moisture 
transport is expected to develop this afternoon ahead of this wave 
then Bend to the northeast and be focused into the area late 
tonight. However...this will be weakening through the night and 
will not be very strong by the time it becomes focused on the 
local area. The forcing from the wave and the weak moisture 
transport should be enough to generate some showers. Expect these 
will move into both taf sites between 09z and 12z. The showers 
should be light enough to not produce any visibility restriction 
but could produce some MVFR ceilings as the rain saturates the low 
levels of the column enough to allow the ceilings to lower. The 
24.09z sref shows the better probabilities of this occurring are 
west of the Mississippi River so have included this at krst. The 
isentropic upglide on the 300k surface begins to weaken after 15z 
Saturday but does continue for the remainder of the morning and 
should be enough to keep some showers or sprinkles going through 
the end of the forecast period. 


&& 


Arx watches/warnings/advisories... 
WI...none. 
Minnesota...none. 
Iowa...none. 
&& 


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Short term...boyne 
long term...boyne 
aviation...04